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✡ 7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. ~Amos 3:7
8 For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion. ~Isaiah 34:8 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. ~1 Corinthians 13:11 Let there be clarity here concerning the so called "Adam-God" controversy: The theory should be called as: Adam-Our-God theory Michael-Our-God theory Our-Michael-Our-Adam-Our-God theory because, Our Michael is a Son of God Our Michael was temporarily Adam Our Michael then took up the mantle of Jehovah until Jesus Our Michael-Jehovah then passed the mantle of Jehovah to Jesus for Brigham Young pronounced:
Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken--HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later. They came here, organized the raw material, and arranged in their order the herbs of the field, the trees, the apple, the peach, the plum, the pear, and every other fruit that is desirable and good for man; the seed was brought from another sphere, and planted in this earth. The thistle, and thorn, the brier, and the obnoxious weed did not appear until after the earth was cursed. When Adam and Eve had eaten of the forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its effects, and therefore their offspring were mortal. When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he took a tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in heaven, after the same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve; from the fruits of the earth, the first earthly tabernacles were originated by the Father, and so on in succession. I could tell you much more about this; but were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have gone. I have heard men preach upon the divinity of Christ, and exhaust all the wisdom they possessed. All Scripturalists, and approved theologians who were considered exemplary for piety and education, have undertaken to expound on this subject, in every obliged to conclude by exclaiming "great is the mystery of godliness," and tell nothing. The first principle to understanding the Adam God Theory is that our personal thinking system must be fully developed. This is both the first and the last principle to understanding the Adam God Theory. The second principle to understanding the Adam God Theory is that it should rather be called the Michael God Theory. The third principle to understanding the Adam God Theory is that Eloheim should always refer to Gods plural. The forth principle to understanding the Adam God Theory is that the "Trinity" and "Immaculate Conception" are not part of the Adam God Theory.
The fifth principle to understanding the Adam God Theory is that it should be refered to as Adam Our God Theory as Adam(Michael) has a God above Him. The sixth principle to understanding the Adam God Theory is that our personal thinking system must be fully developed. This is both the last and the first principle to understanding the Adam God Theory. Heavenly Perspective: Our God is a MICHAEL. Earthly Perspective: Our God is a member of the ELOHEIM. Joseph Smith said that he would not worship a god who does not have a father. A god, which can not make one like himself, is not all powerful. 0. Can God create new additional knowledge to the total knowledge bank? |
QUESTION:
The Blind Men and the Elephant John Godfrey Saxe (1816-1887)
It was six men of Indostan To learning much inclined, Who went to see the Elephant (Though all of them were blind), That each by observation Might satisfy his mind.
The First approached the Elephant, And happening to fall Against his broad and sturdy side, At once began to bawl: "God bless me! but the Elephant Is very like a WALL!"
The Second, feeling of the tusk, Cried, "Ho, what have we here, So very round and smooth and sharp? To me 'tis mighty clear This wonder of an Elephant Is very like a SPEAR!"
The Third approached the animal, And happening to take The squirming trunk within his hands, Thus boldly up and spake: "I see," quoth he, "the Elephant Is very like a SNAKE!"
The Fourth reached out an eager hand, And felt about the knee "What most this wondrous beast is like Is mighty plain," quoth he: "'Tis clear enough the Elephant Is very like a TREE!"
The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear, Said: "E'en the blindest man Can tell what this resembles most; Deny the fact who can, This marvel of an Elephant Is very like a FAN!"
The Sixth no sooner had begun About the beast to grope, Than seizing on the swinging tail That fell within his scope, "I see," quoth he, "the Elephant Is very like a ROPE!"
And so these men of Indostan Disputed loud and long, Each in his own opinion (...guess...) Exceeding stiff and strong, Though each was partly in the right, And all were in the wrong!
15. This question and answer taken from the
FUTURLOGICS
webpage
is brought here to explain the motivation for the Adam God Theory
analysis and synthesis using the futurist perspectives and thinking tools.
Where is the most advantageous starting place to begin prediction in FUTURLOGICS?
ANSWER:
Where a raging controversy is a flame. Maintain an even objective stance or approach and gather as much data and information as can be obtained about the subject and determine what holds the two factions in their persistent view/views. Empathize to see and feel the positions. Predict the outcome of both sides of the controversy and then go and use (If controversy is not your cup of tea then look for a metaphor instead.) the Six Modes and then Six Models; and, then in a holistic way, predict again the true outcome, when the controversy is resolved by conclusive data or information. DMP is the end of controversy.
REFERENCE one: Example of a prediction session
REFERENCE two: Example of a prediction session
REFERENCE three: Example of a prediction session
COMMENT: What is the impact of Self Paced Learning?
REFERENCE: (Notes on Self Paced Learning from
james n. hall's diary)
(This was during and after the year Adam God Theory was published 1986
REFERENCE: (Buy james n. hall's FUTURLOGICS )
After the publication of FUTURLOGICS © 1983 and before the publication of the ADAM GOD THEORY © 1986, I was ask to monitor and judge a debate/discussion group, while working for an international computer company. The topic was the doctrinal authority of the two views of "Old School Mormonism" (pre Joseph F. Smith) versus "New School Mormonism" (beginning with Joseph F. Smith). What started as a discussion soon turned into a debate. This was a remarkable controversy. When the two groups began to agree to disagree, they ask me to make a judgment of who would be the winner. I presented the observation that one of the groups was almost right and the other group was almost wrong. I essentially left the identity of who was wrong or right ambiguous on purpose, because of the strong evidence and quotes on both sides. One side was using strong inductive logics and the other side used strong deductive logics. Neither side balanced their logic between the two classical logics. This was indicative of the influence of particular mental views.
My personal studies, thereafter, set me to think that Brigham Young is gravely underestimated!
This website is concerning the future. Basic premise of "Mormonism" is that a man can become like God. The future of mankind is, then, to be like God. The study of God or theology is therefore the study of the future. To study the future or potential of man then is the study of God.
Other controversies such as: Singularity, Creation by Intelligent Design vs Evolution, Politics, Money Creation, Changes in Science, Historical Changes etc. could be likewise considered but will I have the time?
Conclusion:
President Brigham Young ideas were advanced and forward looking. My pioneer ancestors were not fools for following him to the Great Salt Lake Desert Basin. My pioneer ancestors were not deceived by any sermons they heard from the mouth of President Brigham Young. I see that this man Brigham Young, though self taught, achieved extraordinary mental breakthroughs. From my own research and decades of thought, I see that those who have said that Brigham was wrong might be so very wrong themselves. Brigham Young knew the Prophet Joseph Smith Jr.! This places him very close to the very beginnings of the Restoration. His teachings are worth much deep study.
14. PREAMBLE TO THIS TREATISE:
"I think; therefore I am." ~Rene Descartes
(I am is one of the names of God.)
- If you are an Evolutionist, the Adam God theory/doctrine is unscientific.
- If you are an Atheist, the Adam God theory/doctrine is irrelevant.
- If you are an Agnostic, the Adam God theory/doctrine is an extreme unknowable.
- If you are Theist, the Adam God theory/doctrine is a puzzle.
- If you are Monotheist, the Adam God theory/doctrine is confounding.
- If you are Trinitarian, the Adam God theory/doctrine is a dumbfounding.
- If you are Polytheist, the Adam God theory/doctrine is confusing.
- If you are Henotheist, the Adam God theory/doctrine is understandable.
- If you are futurist, the Adam God theory/doctrine is advanced metacognition.
- If you are a child of god, the Adam God theory/doctrine is/are the view(s) of the future(s).
- We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may. ~Joseph Smith Jr. Articles of Faith 11
What and how you think about God or yourself will inform your "thinking system!"
All religion and all beliefs concerning religion can form a "thinking system" as it can shape and direct our thoughts.
What and how you think about God or yourself will either improve your thinking or disprove your thinking!
This is an example of the "system of thinking" or "thinking system" of Brigham Young, or how to think like Brigham Young!
I wish the few remarks which I may now make to be comprehensive and instructive.
The subject upon which Brother Wells has spoken this afternoon is a very intricate one to define. It is very difficult to convey even the ideas which we may have respecting the operations of, to us, invisible spirits upon the hearts of the children of men; and it is very difficult to frame in the mind a system of thinking and reasoning upon this subject that is at all satisfactory. It is very difficult to form in the mind an even, and unbroken, and correct thread of ideas which will truthfully and satisfactorily explain the variations which we see in the motives and actions of mankind, and to understand the varied motives and feelings of the people, and what they design in performing such and such acts. There are some who have a correct and clear thread of ideas framed in their minds relating to this subject, but cannot convey them to their fellow-beings. This is a weakness that I believe is inherent to a greater or less degree in each and every one of us.
The opposition which we find in the hearts of the children of men to the Gospel of life and salvation, Brother Wells has been setting before us this afternoon in a very able manner. Upon this subject I have my own reflections, and my own way of revealing those reflections to others.
~ Remarks by President Brigham Young, made in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, June 3, 1866. Reported by G. D. Watt. Page: 234 Journal of Discourses
Key Points:
- "one to define"
- "convey ideas"
- "operations of"
- "frame in the mind"
- "system of thinking"
- "reasoning upon this subject"
- "form in the mind"
- "even, and unbroken, and correct thread of ideas"
- "thread of ideas"
- "truthfully and satisfactorily explain the variations"
- "correct and clear thread of ideas"
- "This is a weakness that I believe is inherent to a greater or less degree in each and every one of us."
13. PREFACE TO THE ELEMENTS OF THE "CONTROVERSY" or irony:
It will be noted immediately that Brigham Young's prediction, "Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later", divides people into two groups at the onset. Namely those who know it SOONER and those who know it LATER. Let us call one group as the SOONERS and the other group as the LATERS. If we are to teach one another per the following scripture:
Doctrine and Covenants 88:77
77 And I give unto you a commandment that you shall teach one another the doctrine of the kingdom.
How will the SOONERS teach the LATERS? What will the LATERS teach the SOONERS? What is the responsibility of the LATERS and SOONERS to be able to work with each other? This brings up the following question and answer:
QUESTION:
What is logical oscillation?
ANSWER:
This is best explained by a reference to examples. The first
example is
given by next two sentences:
>> The following sentence is true.
>>
The preceding sentence is false.
or
>> The following prophet speaks true.
>>
The preceding prophet speaks false.
Of note here is the next question: "what is a logical
circulation?". It is
illustrated by the following
sentences:
>> The third sentence is true.
>> The
forth sentence is true.
>> The second sentence is
false.
>> The first sentence is false.
or
>> The third prophet is true.
>> The
forth prophet is true.
>> The second prophet is
false.
>> The first prophet is false.
Neither of the example sentences is true or false but are
elements of thought
without reality. So there are "true
things" and there are "false things"
and there
are "neither things" or things that are just in
imagination and
cogitation. (Figments of imagination and
thought.) A figment can be of
great import as they lead to the
acknowledgement of truth and falsity.
Since there is not an external point of view. But the
sentences(prophet) deals with
each other by a mutuality it will
oscillate, as to their mutual referencing.
Often a debate will
have or use such an oscillation. For the PRO is given and
the
CON is given and the observer of both sides of the controversy will
judge
the strength of each. The convincing arguments of each is
evaluated for
the given side. It is said that a third side
position is the place of JUDGE of the debate.
As with the two above exampled sentences the place of judgment is
at one time
with the first sentence then moves to the second
sentence and then moves to
the first sentence in oscillation.
In thinking systems the goal is the concept of merging thought or
the synthesis of all logics or modes to models et cetera to merge into a final place
or holistic point of reference. The direction of oneness is the final
point or place of judgment. So no meaningless oscillations occur. Now "logical
oscillation" is a desirable thing when the proliferation of thought for idea generation
is the end. Thus analysis is the goal when thought is needed to be generated.
But synthesis is the advantage when referencing a judgment is required.
2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
The Adam God Theory can cause ever learning without truth or "logical circulation."
Unless it is mentally handled with an overarching, undergirding, surrounding and encompassing thinking system.
The Adam God Theory as seen by adherents of Brigham Young develops synthetic thinking which is hyperemperic(awakening).
The Adam God Theory as seen by adherents of Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith develops analytic thinking which is hypnotic(focusing).
The Adam God Theory as seen by adherents of both Brigham Young and Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith develops holistic thinking which develops "third state" thinking or total objectivity within a thinking system.
Let the SOONERS be patient with the LATERS and let the LATERS be diligent.
FURTHER, WHAT IF THE LEADERS WHO HAVE DISAGREED WITH BRIGHAM YOUNG'S
THINKING,
PROPOSED PLAN,
POINTED WAY,
GIVEN DIRECTION,
CONTROVERSY,
CONCERNING ADAM WERE TO APPLY THE FOLLOWING WARD TEACHING MESSAGE TO THEMSELVES?
HISTORICAL NOTE: Ward teaching message for June 1945
"No Latter-Day Saint is compelled to sustain the General Authorities of the Church. When given the opportunity to vote on the proposition in any of the several conferences held throughout the Church, he may indicate his willingness to sustain them by raising his right hand; he may manifest his opposition in like manner; or he may ignore the opportunity entirely. There is no element of coercion or force in this or any other Church procedure.
However, there is the principle of honor involved in the member’s choice. When a person raises his hand to sustain the Church leaders as “prophets, seers, and revelators,” it is the same as a promise and a covenant to abide by their counsel as the living oracles of God. Consequently, any subsequent act or word of mouth which is at variance with the will of the Lord as taught by the leaders of the Church places the sincerity of such person in serious doubt. One could scarcely have claim upon complete integrity, if he raises his hand to sustain the Authorities of the Church and then proceeds to act in opposition to their counsel.
Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes, whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the “prophets, seers, and revelators” of the Church is cultivating the spirit of apostasy. One cannot speak evil of the Lord’s anointed and retain the Holy Spirit in his heart.
It should be remembered that Lucifer has a very cunning way of convincing unsuspecting souls that the General Authorities of the Church are as likely to be wrong as they are to be right. This sort of game is Satan’s favorite pastime, and he has practiced on believing souls since Adam. He wins a great victory when he can get members of the Church to speak against their leaders and to "do their own thinking." He specializes in suggesting that our leaders are in error while he plays the blinding rays of apostasy in their eyes of those whom he thus beguiles. What cunning! And to think that some of our members are deceived by this trickery.
The following words of the Prophet Joseph Smith should be memorized by every Latter-day Saint and repeated often enough to insure their never being forgotten:
I will give you one of the Keys of the mysteries of the Kingdom. It is an eternal principle, that has existed with God from all eternity That man who rises up to condemn others, finding fault with the Church, saying that they are out of the way, while he himself is righteous, then know assuredly, that man is in the high road to apostasy; and if he does not repent, will apostatize, as God lives. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 156-157)
When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan - it is God's plan. When they point the way, there is no other which is safe. When they give direction, it should mark the end of controversy. God works in no other way. To think otherwise, without immediate repentance, may cost one his faith, may destroy his testimony, and leave him a stranger to the Kingdom of God."
Improvement Era, June 1945 (Vol. 48, No. 6., Page 354)
THE ADAM GOD THEORY MAY NOT BE A CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT, IF YOUR THINKING IS SELF-TRAINED PROPERLY, OR LET NOT ORTHODOX TRUTH BE AT WAR WITH UNORTHODOX TRUTH, OR LET NOT YOUR DEDUCTIVE THINKING BE IN CONFLICT AGAINST YOUR INDUCTIVE THINKING! PRAYER IS A FORM OF THINKING. SHOULD NOT WE PRAY ABOUT OUR LEADERS WORDS?
We talk to the Latter-day Saints a great deal, and we wish them to become a thinking people, a people that will reflect and begin to systematize their lives, and know the object of their existence here. This life is as precious and valuable as any life every possessed, or that ever will be possessed by any intelligent being, and hence the necessity and propriety of understanding its object and using it to the best advantage in every respect, and of understanding principle in all things.
~Brigham Young, November 13, 1870
12. THE BASIS OF THE CONTROVERSY:
"Another matter. We hope that you who teach in the various organizations, whether on the campuses or in our chapels, will always teach the orthodox truth. We warn you against the dissemination of doctrines which are not according to the scriptures and which are alleged to have been taught by some of the General Authorities of past generations. Such, for instance, is the Adam-God theory. We denounce that theory and hope that everyone will be cautioned against this and other kinds of false doctrine." ~Spencer W. Kimball November 1976
This statement of President Kimball in October 1976 was given 99 years from the death of President Young, or 124 years from the 1852 conference address of President Young. No one would be alive who actually heard President Young speak. President Spencer W. Kimball has joined President Brigham Young in death November 1985.
Before this statement of President Kimball in October 1976, Brigham Young's teaching concerning Michael and/or Adam was considered, (for 124 years), advanced teaching or advanced doctrine or theory.
How can you denounce a theory? How can you denounce an "experiment upon the word"? How can you denounce what Brigham Young actually taught?
(Please Note: Where are the fifteen signatures that comprise the "we denounce"?)
(Please Note: Why did not nine previous presidents not denounce thusly?")
(Please Note Again: "Adam-God Theory" is NOT the same as "Adam God Theory." Adam-God says that Adam equals God or Adam=God, but God is the fashioner of Adam. Also Adam is a son of God, or Adam has a GOD above himself. )
(Please Note Again: this instruction is to you who teach NOT you who learn by self-study without teachers which is thinking or ask, seek, knock. It was intended to call teachers to teach basics first, to not invent theories. )
(Please Note Again: The word "orthodox" is not found in the Scripture's standard works. )
(Historical Note: Spencer W. Kimbal is the grandson of Heber C. Kimbal who declared that god is the first man in Volume 4 of the Journal of Discources Journal of Discourses Volume 4 Page 1 --- )
At the time this statement was made in the 1976 Priesthood conference, I was serving on a priesthood committee under the direction of Elder Mark E. Petersen. We were at that time working with a number of people who believed the Adam-God theory, and our committee wanted to know more precisely what President Kimball meant by his statement, so through Elder Petersen we made an appointment with him and asked him. In a private interview President Kimball made the following clarifications: He said that he did not say that President Brigham Young did not make the statements which are attributed to him, nor did he claim that they were falsely reported. Neither did he say that Brigham Young taught false doctrine. What he did say and what he meant is that the Adam-God theory is false, and the Adam-God theory is that interpretation which is placed on Brigham Young's words by present day apostates and fundamentalists - their understanding of what Brigham Young meant is false.
Considering both President Kimball's original statement and his subsequent clarification, what we need is an understanding of what Brigham Young meant by his statements which is in accordance with scripture. This is reasonable even without President Kimball's statements, because any of President Young's teachings which are not in harmony with scripture would simply be wrong anyway. ~Elden Watson
Before scripture becomes scripture, it is first revelation; therefore , did Brigham Young receive revelation concerning Adam?
To understand the words of Brigham Young, let us not underestimate his thinking and undervalue his theology.
One of the spiritual gifts that President Young experienced at various times was speaking in tongues. On the day when he first met the Prophet Joseph in November 1832, the new convert surprised the group he was with by speaking in tongues. Joseph Smith proclaimed that Brother Brigham spoke the language of Adam on that occasion. Like all gifts, however, speaking in tongues is not intended for too frequent display, and Elder Young did not often manifest this gift during his many years of proselyting among the peoples of America and Europe. Nevertheless, there were times when the Spirit moved him to do so. Utah pioneer Jesse W. Fox also bore testimony that on one occasion President Young was blessed to converse with the Indians of Utah in their native language. Ensign August 1977 at www.churchofjesuschrist.org
". . . historical record does rather more than suggest Brigham Young taught Adam God. He gave a rather extensive discourse on the subject in General Conference on October 8, 1854. This caused a big controversy that kept it from becoming the doctrine of the Church and instead transformed it from official mystery to official denial to official heresy to official mystery again over the past one hundred and fifty years." Statement attributed to Mark H. Butler, if he does not claim this analysis, it is still salient ~Mark Butler
Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken--HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later. They came here, organized the raw material, and arranged in their order the herbs of the field, the trees, the apple, the peach, the plum, the pear, and every other fruit that is desirable and good for man; the seed was brought from another sphere, and planted in this earth. The thistle, and thorn, the brier, and the obnoxious weed did not appear until after the earth was cursed. When Adam and Eve had eaten of the forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its effects, and therefore their offspring were mortal. When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he took a tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in heaven, after the same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve; from the fruits of the earth, the first earthly tabernacles were originated by the Father, and so on in succession. I could tell you much more about this; but were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have gone. I have heard men preach upon the divinity of Christ, and exhaust all the wisdom they possessed. All Scripturalists, and approved theologians who were considered exemplary for piety and education, have undertaken to expound on this subject, in every obliged to conclude by exclaiming "great is the mystery of godliness," and tell nothing.
father Adam . . . He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the AMCIENT OF DAYS!
father Adam . . . He is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do. ( Note: the word our ) Brigham taught "Adam-our-God" Theory not Adam-God Theory
father of Jesus . . . He is the first of the human family.
father of Jesus . . . begotten by his Father in Heaven, . . . .
first of the the human family ( ADAM )
If Brigham Young was a fool for teaching his Adam Ideas, then what prevents those who say he exceeded his office, from being a fool themselves for saying such things of Brigham, if they hold the same office? Also Brigham Young did NOT teach Adam-God Ideas. Brigham Young taught Adam God Ideas! Another matter. It is hoped all who learn in the various organizations, whether on the campuses or in our chapels, will always learn the whole truth, above and beyond you who teach.
Until November 1976, Brigham Youngs teachings were explained as advanced teachings difficult to understand within orthodox curriculum.
Brigham Young never considered any of his teaching as false doctrine!
NOTIFICATION FOR THOSE WHO SEE CONTROVERSY OR IRONY:
Those who teach orthodox truth or those who teach unorthodox truth; or in other words, those who teach "milk" or those who teach "meat", must remember that to teach one to fish is not the same as giving one a fish. Children must be taught basic truths or "orthodox truths" first before they are mature enough to receive higher learning or unorthodox truths or unorthodox learning.
The Adam God Theory is disruptive to education that has been obtained through classic study. There is much less logical disturbance in learning it, if the learner is self-educated or self-taught. Creative thinking methods are required to understand the dual-perspective/tri-perspective thinking system embedded in the theory or doctrine as it were. Brigham Young and Joseph Smith Jr. were self-taught and self-educated to a greater degree. The principles learned through their type of self-teaching will be required to understand their point of view in this subject. Right Brain thinking is required along with Left Brain thinking. Understanding comes with the linking Corpus Callosum thinking--metaphorically speaking. Current modern education specializes in Left Brain thinking, typical of Orson Pratt. Education gained through formal method aside from self-teaching, setup the confounding of the mind with the Adam God Proposition, because classic formal education is externally conditioned learning. Elder Jeffrey R. Holland declared, “In this Church, what we know will always trump what we do not know. And remember, in this world, everyone is to walk by faith.” What if "what we know" is contaminated with the education of this world; such as, "educated" Orson Pratt disputing with "self-taught" Brigham Young concerning Adam?
If the motive to set forth orthodoxy is to protect the students from being overwhelmed or crushed by advanced concepts, then there maybe adequate justification for dividing the truth in this dichotomy. However, if the motive to set forth orthodoxy is to protect the teachers from a difficult question, then the justification will be not so adequate! Worse still, if the motive is a cover-up to maintain "stare decisis" of inadequate answers or explanations, then dishonesty will prevail and learning students will fail to achieve full maturity in theology. This simplifies teaching for all on a mass scale, but then dogma replaces doctrine. Learning to teach yourself can make up for this glass ceiling, but those who do not break through, will be missing a vital element to eternal progression!
All this focuses down to view the church as a greenhouse, meant to protect young plants, or to germinate seedlings, or to increase yield. But plants who remain in the protective bubble or "hot house" will shrivel in the outside weather when transplanted for production in the open environment. "Hardening off" is the term used by the gardener to prepare plants for transplant.
Learning the unorthodox truth or the whole truth can be the means to "stress strengthen" or "harden off" students for the free environment learning: such as, the missionary experience. To be fully informed and tested is what this earthlife is about. Personal revelation will fulfill this goal.
The question is therefore, can a person teach himself unorthodox truth or can a person learn unorthodox truth without the aid of a teacher? May "what other people know" not trump "what you do not know!" The future will always trump what we know.
Concerning heresy or believing contrary to orthodoxy or established authority: If Brigham Young taught heresy to Joseph Smith's legacy, then all who follow Brigham Young will be disciples of a Heretic. If Brigham did not teach heresy, then all who teach against his advancement of the Adam God proposition are heretics. Orthodoxy is also subject to changing times. The presentation here is to establish then, that all is just a misunderstanding. There is a solution, but it requires a new way or method to think about these views. ~2014
CONTROVERSY IS NECESSARY TO MATURE AND NURTURE YOUR PERSONAL THINKING SYSTEM
For as he thinketh(Hebrew: imagines) in his heart(Hebrew: soul/spirit), so is he: ~Proverbs 23:7
. . .
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: ~Hosea 4:6 6
. . .
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. ~Proverbs 4:7
. . .
But to be learned is good if they hearken unto the counsels of God.~2 Nephi 9:29
. . .
These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you:
but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. ~1 John 2:26-27
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Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
~Jesus Sermon on the Mount
THEORY COMING FROM A THINKING SYSTEM:
Referring to a subject as a theory does not mean that you do not believe it. It could be that it is a thinking system, or a means to learn higher learning methods. Some persons may be perfected in theories. Theory is part of the kingdom of God. It was part of the first Endowment first given to the Saints by Joseph Smith Jr. and during the lifetime of Brigham Young and afterwards for awhile. The "Mormon Temple Endowment" is a theory never sustained by the non-recommend-holder members. Brigham Young maintained it as part of the Temple Theory so it never became doctrine to all the Saints. fair reference
Perhaps theory is how we experiment upon the WORD.
Note: the word theory is used twice in the scriptures: Emphasis and color added:
Doctrine and Covenants 88:78
Doctrine and Covenants 97:14
Isaiah 55:8-9
8 For my thoughts [are] not your (their in Hebrew i.e. the wicked) thoughts, neither [are] your (their in Hebrew i.e. the wicked) ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your (their in Hebrew i.e. the wicked) ways, and my thoughts than your (their in Hebrew i.e. the wicked) thoughts.
2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
Before you can understand the kingdom of God, you must first understand the law of the Gospel.
Before you can understand the law of the Gospel, you must first understand the doctrine.
Before you can understand the doctrine, you must first understand the principles.
Before you can understand the principles, you must first understand the theory.
Before you can understand the theory, you must first understand your thinking.
Before you can understand your thinking, you must first understand thinking systems.
QUESTION:
11. What is a thinking system?
ANSWER:
A thinking system is a memorized pattern or model guiding the enterprise of thought. It is trained metacognition that is either self-taught or externally educated. It is a schema. It is where the whole of thought is greater than the sum of the parts of thought. It is the knowledge of "how to control the human mind, and bring every faculty and power of the same in subjection to Jesus Christ" and is the greatest of mysteries to learn while in this life. In the context of this webpage: examples could be such as:
The purpose of a thinking system is to perfect or increase intelligence.
QUESTION:
10. What is the difference between a 'THINKING SYSTEM' and 'SYSTEM THINKING?'
ANSWER:
-FIRST:
A THINKING SYSTEM can be thought of as methods, models, metaphors
of thought.
They are such as:
"Six Thinking Hats"~Edward de Bono
"Seven Habits"~Stephan R. Covey
"Design Thinking"~Michael Lewrick
"FUTURLOGICS a system of prospective thinking"~james n. hall
"Common Sense" in its various degrees
"Thinking" informed and guided by:
They can move in and out of the whole or the part with transparency.
-SECOND:
SYSTEM THINKING takes on the whole rather than breaking down into the parts.
System thinking sees taking just a part as a distortion or the whole maybe
greater than the sum of the parts. Synergistic cycle or self-destructive
or "Sick" cycle or Balanced Equilibrium cycle are the state of the 'sum' of
the parts of the whole. System thinking uses vistas or maps rather than the
focus of analysis. Personal Thinking is minimized.
-THIRD
The thesis of modes in the Futurlogics comes from one of three types of cycles.
Cycles are mentioned in the SYSTEM THINKING and they are generally
the "vicious cycle" that eats at itself and the "virtuous cycle" which increases
and expands such as the expanding spiral of Futurlogics; also of course the
balanced or non-spiraling cycles that tend to be in dynamic stability.
Futurlogics is an expanding spiral or is a 'virtuous' cycle of six connected cycles
or interconnected cycles generating a 'SYSTEM'. Futurlogics creates a system
which can be studied somewhat with system thinking; but, like the scientific
method can not study the mind or the scientific method itself. System thinking
can not study the mind system except with reflection. This suggests that within
a system there can be a system within a system within a system within a system
within a system ad infinitum. Systems can have subsystems/systems. Your choice
as to whether the spiral expands to progression or diminishes to destruction.
-FOURTH
Now Thinking Systems creates systems. System thinking is different. System Thinking
is inheriting or finding or discovering a SYSTEM or the exact map of a system.
SYSTEM DYNAMICS is to setup a mode/model of a real system, to test and examine the changes,
as components of the system are varied (this is experimenting.) The Artificial
Future in Futurlogics is how we experiment and vary the components for effect;
where this type of simulation can be taken to assumptive lengths. Some times a
computer model can be made to examine the interrelations and flows between elements
by simulation between the system and the subsystems that can spawn from the
elements.
System Thinking always maintains the original environment of the field of action
or subject of the research. The six cycles in Futurlogics produce six subsystems called
'modes' which are part of the system of Futurlogics (a System of Prospective Thinking).
This is a 'virtuous cycle', subsystem/mode, and finally a model that enables prediction and
extrapolations and interpolations. Thus prospective thinking takes system thinking
to the next level where time dynamics goes to the frontier of the future and mind.
Now three of the cycles are threaded together on time and the other three
are threaded together on principles and functions of intelligence. Thus
there are two subsystems resulting in 'truth' and 'insight' (truth is knowledge of
past, present, future) (insight is imagination, logic, creativity, vision.) These two
subsystems have a unifying thread of mind and its internal realities. Thus Holistic
thinking is a system of one thread or component. This is DMP of Futurlogics.
Consciousness is the highlighting conduit or glowing conduit of awareness
and thought. (D)(M)(P) is the dual acronym of (D)irect (M)ental (P)rocess
and (D)irect (M)ind (P)erception, which is the Holistic combination of all the
factional thoughts. Therefore Futurlogics is a system of prospective thinking.
Futurlogics is "System Thinking" used to develop a "Thinking System."
Why do we need Systems Thinking?
"A human being is part of the whole called by us "universe,"
a part limited in
time and space. We experience ourselves, our
thoughts, and feelings as
something separate from the rest. A
kind of optical delusion of consciousness.
This delusion is a
kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal
desires
and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be
to
free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of
compassion to embrace
all living creatures and the whole of
nature in all of its beauty."
--Albert Einstein
"The essential new quality implied by the quantum theory
is... that a system
cannot be analyzed into parts. This leads to
the radically new notion of
unbroken wholeness of the entire
universe. You cannot take it apart. For if
you do, what you end
up with is not contained within the original whole. It
is
created by the act of analysis."
--David Bohm - Wholeness
and the Implicate Order
Why do we need a Thinking System?
"The world we have made as a result of the level of thinking we
have done thus
far creates problems that we cannot solve at the
same level (of consciousness)
at which we have created them....
We shall require a substantially new manner
of thinking if
humankind is to survive."
--Albert Einstein
Thinking about thinking will be the most productive endeavor of
man, if
he codifies the principles of intelligence that improve
thinking. This
is the purpose and incentive of Futurlogics.
--
Unless 'System Thinking' is controlled with a 'Thinking System'
there can be
volitive conflicts. Is man a system or a subsystem?
That is the question!
Perhaps man is a catalyst to change in our
environment.
Some of these conflicts are mentioned in the
chapter on the Synthetic Future.
Here re-quoted for your
convenience is an excerpt from Futurlogics:
COMMITMENTThe volitive restrictions found in the absolute mode take another
direction in the synthetic mode. Here we find another technique that
avoids the conflict by rewarding it to submission. The objective that
produces this future places us in the position of sacrificing our will to
gain our will. We commit ourselves to the operations of a plan to
create a future that the synthetic mode will generate. In other words,
we voluntarily limit the range of volition by saying that we are
concentrating our efforts and thoughts to the accomplishment of the
design. Commitment is the point where we assign our activities to the
plan that will make the achievement of our goals and objective real.Civilization is a commitment. When we look to the future with
the synthetic mode, we will be confronted with a commitment. The
persons who work under this mode will be captured by the mode itself.
City dwellers will be more subject to the demands of civilization than
the rural farmer, who is practically independent, producing to meet
most of his own needs.
To apply these two concepts (that is "Thinking System and/or "System Thinking") to the controversy at hand: President Brigham Young used a self developed "thinking system" or testimony and emphasized that all saints should do likewise. President Joseph F. Smith applied "system thinking" and stressed that all saints be in compliance to the church by correlation to the body of the church at large. So this controversy centers in the dynamics of "Thinking System" in conflict with "System Thinking."
The solution is to seek a more expanded theology to merge the two. It appears, on the surface, as a conflict between enlightenment versus order, but should the expanded theology/view be order with enlightenment and/or be enlightenment with order.
Mark 2:27-28 And he said unto them,The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
It could be said, the Earth was made for man, and not man for the Earth.
It could be said, the Church was made for man, and not man for the Church.
In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted [prepared] a plan to create the world and people it. ✡ When we begin to learn this way, we begin to learn the only true God, and what kind of a being we have got to worship. Having a knowledge of God, we begin to know how to approach Him, and how to ask so as to receive an answer. When we understand the character of God, and know how to come to Him, he begins to unfold the heavens to us, and to tell us all about it. When we are ready to come to him, he is ready to come to us.
~Joseph Smith Jr. King Follett Discourse Sunday April 7, 1844 Conference
Words of Joseph Smith The contemporary accounts of the Nauvoo discourses of the Prophet Joseph Compiled and edited by Andrew F. Ehat and Lyndon W. Cook With a Foreword by Truman G. Madsen Grandin Book Company 1991 9 March 1841 (Tuesday). take from Mclntire Minute Book (English clarified) The Son had a tabernacle and so had the Father, but the the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit without tabernacle. The Great God has a name by which He will be called which is Ahman - also in asking have a reference to a personage like Adam, for God made Adam just in His own image. ✡Now this is a key for you to know how to ask and obtain. -- Words of Joseph Smith pg. 64 ✡<-----[By these statements we see (The Adam God Theory) is a thinking system]
8A. The 1852 Sermons of Brigham Young as printed in the Journal of Discourses Volume 1 Pages 46 to 53.
Journal of Discourses / Journal of Discourses, Volume 1 / Brigham Young, April 9, 1852 Brigham Young, April 9, 1852 SELF-GOVERNMENT--MYSTERIES--RECREATION AND AMUSEMENT, NOT IN THEMSELVES SINFUL--TITHING--ADAM, OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD A sermon delivered by President Brigham Young, in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, April 9, 1852. Page 46 It is my intention to preach several discourses this evening, but how many I do not know. I will in the first place bear testimony to the truth of many remarks made by brother Hunter, and especially his exhortation to the Seventies and Elders, and those men who wish to go on missions. I wish also to urge the necessity of your proceeding on your missions immediately, and of going to the place of your destination full of the Holy Ghost, preaching righteousness to the people; and while you do this, live up to the principles you preach, that you may teach also by your example, as well as by precept. Go, ye Elders, and now consider yourselves from this time forth missionaries. If the Gospel is in you like a flaming fire, to be poured upon the people, gather your neighbors together, and give your brethren an invitation to your house, and set before them the duties of man; and preach, if you can speak but for five minutes, occupying that time to the best advantage. Continue to preach, study, and learn, by faith and prayer, until your minds and mouths are opened, and you understand most perfectly the love of Christ. Page 47 It is not uncommon for Elders to say, "If I could have a mission, and be sent among strangers, I could speak to them, because they have not been instructed in the way of life and salvation: I could lay before them the principles of the Gospel, which have been taught to me, without that difference of feeling, and fear, which I experience while speaking to my brethren." It is very true that the first principles of the Gospel taught by the Elders of this Church are easy to be understood, compared with what it is to preach them to our families, or to our neighborhood, and to govern and control ourselves by the principles of righteousness which the Gospel inculcates. Again, to gather the Saints, to preach the Gospel to the world, and convince them of the truth, are much easier tasks than to convince men that you can master yourself, and practise the moral principles inculcated by your religion. That is a small portion of the duty required of you in order to obtain crowns of glory, immortality, and eternal lives. I will here remark, that it is natural for the people to desire to know a great deal of the MYSTERIES; this, however, is not universally the case, though it is so with a great many of the Elders of Israel. I do not suppose it will apply to those who compose this congregation; your object in being here this evening is not to hear some great mystery of the Kingdom, which you never understood before. The greatest mystery a man ever learned, is to know how to control the human mind, and bring every faculty and power of the same in subjection to Jesus Christ; this is the greatest mystery we have to learn while in these tabernacles of clay. It is more necessary for the Elders to learn and practise upon this lesson in the midst of the Saints at head quarters than in the world; for their facilities for learning are much greater, and I will tell you wherein. Let a Bishop, a High Priest, a President of any Stake or Quorum, any who are Elders in Israel, or any individual Saint from the first to the last of them, fall into error, and it is at once made manifest; he cannot pursue that course any further, for he is where lie can learn his duties, and know how to walk straight in the paths of righteousness. Here is the place for you to teach great mysteries to your brethren, because here are those who can correct you. This fault the Elders of Israel do not fall into in this Tabernacle, although they may in private houses and neighborhoods. When a man is capable of correcting you, and of giving you light, and true doctrine, do not get up an altercation, but submit to be taught like little children, and strive with all your might to understand. The privileges of those who dwell here are greater than the privileges of those who are abroad. When your duties call you into foreign lands, and you there exhaust your stock of knowledge and wisdom, and you are not in possession of the keys to obtain that instruction which you desire, it is because you are far from the right fountain--far from the body, where all the members are in lively operation--where the eye can see, the ear hear, the nose smell, and the mouth speak, and so forth. When your face is turned from the body, let mysteries alone, for this is the only place for you to be corrected if wrong. Preach the simple, unadorned truth; work out your salvation with diligence, and do that which will guarantee you a warranted deed, an undeniable title to eternal lives. If you feel prayer in you, pray; and if you feel the spirit of preaching in you, preach; call in your brethren, and read the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Book of Covenants, and the other revelations of God to them; and talk over the things contained in those books, and deal them out to your brethren and neighbors; pray with them, and teach them how to control themselves; and let your teachings be sustained by your own example. Teach your families how to control themselves; teach them good and wholesome doctrine, and practise the same in your own lives. This is the place for you to become polished shafts in the quiver of the Almighty. This will answer for one sermon. I feel much inclined to talk to the brethren: I have not had the privilege of preaching much for some time, because of the inconvenience of our former meeting place. Now, as we have a good, convenient place to meet in, and my health will serve me, I expect to improve the time. I love to preach at home with the Saints. I love to meet with them, and look up on their happy countenances, lit up with the joys of eternity. In short. I love the society of all good men, and to preach salvation to them. Page 48 You may consider what I shall now lay before you a small matter; but I think it of some importance. When the Elders of Israel leave this place, and go forth among the wicked, it is not their privilege to mingle with them in any of their worldly exercises; for if they do, the devil will obtain an advantage over them, and succeed in drawing them away from the path of their duty. For instance--suppose you and I, with many more of the brethren, meet together in a convenient place in the Valley, and dance to the sweet strains of the violin; we could do so with a perfect good will: but if we should be called to England, and there have an invitation to join with the wicked in their pastimes and recreations, and we in our feelings bow down to this, and suffer our spirits to be subject to their commandments, we suffer ourselves to be ruled over by them, and at once become their servants. While I am here, I am in the midst of the Priesthood of heaven, and in the centre of the kingdom of God. We are before the Lord, where every hand I shake is the hand of a Saint, and every face I see, when I look upon the assembled thousands, is the countenance of a Saint. I am the controller and master of affairs here, under Heaven's direction; though there are those who do not believe this. I invite those who are not subject to me as their President, not to contaminate my friends; for were I and my friends to become subject to those who object to us, we are then on the ground of the devil, and subject ourselves to him they serve. Never suffer yourselves to mingle in any of those recreations that tend to sin and iniquity, while you are away from the body of the Church, where you cannot so fully control yourselves. Let the Elders who are going out from this place carry this instruction with them into the other portions of the earth. Whatever a man does, let him do it in the name of the Lord--let him work in the name of the Lord, let all his acts through life be in the name of the Lord; and if he wants light and knowledge, let him ask in that name. You are well aware that the wickedness of the world, or the apostacy of the Church, is so great, that those who now profess religion cannot enjoy their own natural privileges in the world. In many places their folly and superstition are so great that they would consider they had committed the sin of blasphemy if they happened to hear a violin. The whole world could not hire a good, honest, sound Presbyterian, of the old fashion and cut, to look into a room where a company of young men and women were dancing, lest they should sin against the Holy Ghost. This over-righteous notion is imbibed by the generality of professors of religion, but it is because they themselves have made it a sin. Let us look at the root of the matter. In the first place, some wise being organized my system, and gave me my capacity, put into my heart and brain something that delights, charms, and fills me with rapture at the sound of sweet music. I did not put it there; it was some other being. As one of the modern writers has said, "Music hath charms to soothe the savage breast." It has been proved that sweet music will actually tame the most malicious and venomous beasts, even when they have been stirred up to violent wrath, and make them docile and harmless as lambs. Who gave the lower animals a love for those sweet sounds, which with magic power fill the air with harmony, and cheer and comfort the hearts of men and so wonderfully affect the brute creation? It was the Lord, our heavenly Father, who gave the capacity to enjoy these sounds, and which we ought to do in His name, and to His glory. But the greater portion of the sectarian world consider it sacrilege to give way to any such pleasure as even to listen to sweet music, much more to dance to its delightful strains. This is another short sermon. Page 49 I wish now to say a few words to the brethren upon the subject of tithing. It is well known to the majority of this Conference what transpired, last Conference, upon the stand in the old Bowery. At that Conference I had good cause to find fault with the Bishops, and I took the liberty to brush them down a little. From that day to this there has been more accomplished by our Bishops in the short space of seven months, than was accomplished by them for the space of years previously. This gives me great satisfaction. The Bishops have done as well as men could do: their conduct in fulfilling the duties of their calling has truly been praiseworthy, and I feel to bless them, and pray the Lord to bless them all the day long, for they have done first rate. When we consider the ignorance of the world, their unbelief in God, and realize that the vail of the covering is over the face of all nations, and remember the ignorance we were once in ourselves, having to commence like babes at the rudiments of learning, knowing also how faltering men are in their faith, and then look at what this people have accomplished, we are led to exclaim, "It is marvellous in our eyes!" Were I to say, "Elders of Israel, you that feel to put your all upon the altar, rise upon your feet," who would be left? [All present rose up simultaneously.] Where is there another people upon the earth who would have done this? I have no tithing, but all--all I have is the Lord's. You know the word sacrifice: as brother Banks said to-day, it is a mere burlesque--a nonsensical term. No man ever heard me say I had made a sacrifice. I possess nothing but what my heavenly Father has been pleased to give me, or, in other words, He has loaned it to me while I remain here in this mortal flesh. Is it not marvellous, considering the weakness of man, to see the willingness of this whole people to die if necessary for the truth? How do you suppose it makes me feel? Though I may sometimes chastise my brethren, and speak to them in the language of reproof, there is not a father who feels more tenderly towards his offspring, and loves them better than I love this people; and my Father in Heaven loves them; my heart yearns over them with all the emotions of tenderness, so that I could weep like a child; but I am careful to keep my tears to myself. If you do wrong, it grieves my heart, and it also grieves the heart of my heavenly Father. I feel continually to urge my brethren to cease from all evil, and learn to do well. The fulness of the heavens and the earth is the Lord's--the gold and the silver, the wheat, the fine flour, and the cattle upon a thousand hills; and when we fully understand His works, we shall know that He is in all the earth, and fulfills His will among the children of men, exalting and debasing them according to His pleasure; for the systems, creeds, thrones, and kingdoms of the world are all under His control. "Shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it"--or that He doth not control? The Lord controls the whole; and in the end, you will find He has regulated all things right, for all will be consummated to His glory. The children of men are made as independent in their sphere as the Lord is in His, to prove themselves, pursue which path they please, and choose the evil or the good. For those who love the Lord, and do His will, all is right, and they shall be crowned, but those who hate His ways shall be damned, for they choose to be damned. Page 50 As I was meditating on the philosophy of the day, it occurred to my mind how visible it must appear to all eyes that the Lord does indeed work, that it is He who blesses this people; and yet it seems as though they cannot see His hand. The Lord fills the immensity of space. What saith the Psalmist? "Whither shall I go from thy Spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascent up into heaven, thou art there; if I make my bed in hell, behold thou art there; if I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there shall thy hand lead me." I was trying to think of the place where God is not, but it is impossible, unless you can find empty space; and there I believe He is not. If you can find such a place, it will become useful for a hiding place to those who wish to hide themselves from the presence of the Lord, in the great day of accounts. I will close this sermon, as I intend to preach another before I present the subject I more particularly wish to speak upon. My next sermon will be to both Saint and sinner. One thing has remained a mystery in this kingdom up to this day. It is in regard to the character of the well-beloved Son of God, upon which subject the Elders of Israel have conflicting views. Our God and Father in heaven, is a being of tabernacle, or, in other words, He has a body, with parts the same as you and I have; and is capable of showing forth His works to organized beings, as, for instance, in the world in which we live, it is the result of the knowledge and infinite wisdom that dwell in His organized body. His son Jesus Christ has become a personage of tabernacle, and has a body like his father. The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of the Lord, and issues forth from Himself, and may properly be called God's minister to execute His will in immensity; being called to govern by His influence and power; but He is not a person of tabernacle as we are, and as our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ are. The question has been, and is often, asked, who it was that begat the Son of the Virgin Mary. The infidel world have concluded that if what the Apostles wrote about his father and mother be true, and the present marriage discipline acknowledged by Christendom be correct, then Christians must believe that God is the father of an illegitimate son, in the person of Jesus Christ! The infidel fraternity teach that to their disciples. I will tell you how it is. Our Father in Heaven begat all the spirits that ever were, or ever will be, upon this earth; and they were born spirits in the eternal world. Then the Lord by His power and wisdom organized the mortal tabernacle of man. We were made first spiritual, and afterwards temporal.
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Page 51 Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken--HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later. They came here, organized the raw material, and arranged in their order the herbs of the field, the trees, the apple, the peach, the plum, the pear, and every other fruit that is desirable and good for man; the seed was brought from another sphere, and planted in this earth. The thistle, and thorn, the brier, and the obnoxious weed did not appear until after the earth was cursed. When Adam and Eve had eaten of the forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its effects, and therefore their offspring were mortal. When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he took a tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in heaven, after the same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve; from the fruits of the earth, the first earthly tabernacles were originated by the Father, and so on in succession. I could tell you much more about this; but were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have gone. I have heard men preach upon the divinity of Christ, and exhaust all the wisdom they possessed. All Scripturalists, and approved theologians who were considered exemplary for piety and education, have undertaken to expound on this subject, in every obliged to conclude by exclaiming "great is the mystery of godliness," and tell nothing. It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man, "it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation. I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now remember from this time forth, and forever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. I will repeat a little anecdote. I was in conversation with a certain learned professor upon this subject, when I replied, to this idea--"if the Son was begotten by the Holy Ghost, it would be very dangerous to baptize and confirm females, and give the Holy Ghost to them, lest he should beget children, to be palmed upon the Elders by the people, bringing the Elders into great difficulties." Treasure up these things in your hearts. In the Bible, you have read the things I have told you to-night; but you have not known what you did read. I have told you no more than you are conversant with; but what do the people in Christendom, with the Bible in their hands, know about this subject? Comparatively nothing. Page 52 I will now again take up the subject of tithing. The brethren have done well. They have been willing and obedient, no people could have been more so; for this I thank my Father in Heaven. I could not wish a people to work more kindly in the yoke of Jesus than this people do; the yoke grows more and more easy to them. It seems that every man will not only pay his tithing, but give all he has, if the Lord requires it: still I see wherein they may do better. I asked the people to day to assist to pay our Church liabilities. The offer of three or four yoke of oxen only, we do not want; but I will lay before you what we wish you to do. By the manifesto which has been read, you have learned the precise situation of the property of the Church. What has incurred this debt? Why does it exist in the shape in which it now appears? And wherein could we have obviated the difficulty, and done better? A fourth part of the money already paid out, did not come in upon tithing. This money we have had to borrow in order to keep the public works in progress. You may say, wherein could we have done better, for we have paid our tithing punctually? But has that brother, who sent $100 back to the East for merchandize, paid $10 of it into the tithing office? Or did the brother who has sent $500 back, let us have $50? No; these have used it themselves, and thereby involved those who bear the responsibilities of the Trust. Again, those who have not possessed sufficient money to send back for merchandize, have been necessitated to pay out what they had. Thousands of dollars have been paid here for merchandize. Has one-tenth of all that money been paid into the tithing office? It has not. And where is the tithing that should have come in from England and California. Instead of tithing their money, they have used it for other purposes, and paid it in property, with which we could not pay our debts. This is wherein we have failed to liquidate our debts. The people go to these Gentile stores, on the Saturday, in crowds, to purchase goods. I think we shall not over-rate the amount, if we say that $500,000 has been paid, in these valleys, to the merchants. But suppose they have received no more than $50,000 from this community, $5,000 of that money ought to have been first paid into the tithing office and we could have sent it to the States, and purchased goods ourselves for one-third or one-half less than we have to pay the merchants here. And $25,000 more should have come into the tithing office from the Church in the United States. The brethren in California have made no less than $100,000, the tenth of which is due this tithing office. For want of this money, we are brought into bondage; and we must now apply our faith and works to raise means to liquidate our indebtedness, which has accumulated by purchasing goods at high and extortionate prices. I find no fault with the merchants, for they came here to gather gold by the hundred weight. Now, brethren, and Bishops, look over this matter, and try to think what your feelings would be if you were laid under the same responsibility that I and my brethren have upon our shoulders. We are required to see the Gospel preached to the nations afar off, to build council houses and temples, to cope with the united wisdom and craft of legislative assemblies, and with the powers of darkness in high places; and then place yourselves in the circumstances we are now placed in! Besides all this, see the hundreds who come to us every day to be administered to in various ways: some want fruit, some sugar, others tea, and all want clothing, &c. Then step into our private rooms, where we commune with the people, and you will see and hear all this, and a great deal more. Instead of every man bringing his picayune, or his six pence, or his $5, &c., as tithing on the money in his possession, it is all used for something else, and the storehouse of the Lord is left empty. Suppose nothing had been put in there but what the people have put in, the workmen would have been naked. Walk into the storehouse, and examine for yourselves. To be sure there has been a little clothing put in lately; for instance, there was an old silk dress put in for $40, that had been lying for years rotting in the chest: this is a specimen of the rest. What are such things worth to our workmen? Why, nothing at all. We wish you to put in strong and substantial clothing. Good, strong, homemade stuffs make the most suitable clothing for those who are building up the public works. Page 53 Will you help us out of this thraldom, and have it credited to your future tithing? There is already a great deal more due than would liquidate all our debts, but we cannot command it now. Do you feel willing to put your shoulder to the wheel, and continue to roll it forward, and still continue, you that have faith to continue, to increase in faith? for the business of this kingdom will increase, and the responsibility also; the labor will and must grow, and continue to increase, until the kingdoms of this world become the kingdom of our God and His Christ. So much on tithing; you see where the failure is; it is in that point, and nowhere else. It is not for any man to think he is a cipher--that what he can do will not tell in this matter, and say, "They will get along well enough without me;" but it is every man's duty to lay it to heart, and help what he can with his earthly substance; though I wish you to understand distinctly that it is no commandment--you are left to act freely. Let all the sheep stay in the Valley; also the cows; for they will give milk and butter, and replenish the stock. But when we speak of the horses, mules, and oxen, let every man look up his spare stock of this description, and with them help to liquidate these debts. Stock will now pay debts. I will use my stock for this purpose, and my brethren will do the same, until we have enough. I do not enjoin this upon you, as you have already paid the tithing which is required of you; except in some instances in the money tithing. Had we received the money due to us, we should have had no debts; but this failure has been, and is now, in existence. I will take every kind of spare stock I have, except my cows and sheep, and wipe off these debts until they are cancelled; and now every man who will do the same, let him rise upon his feet. [The whole congregation of two thousand men rose up to a man.] Do you suppose we want to deprive you of your teams? It is not so, but we wished to know the state of your faith, so that when we are ready to call upon you, we can be sure our call will be responded to. I would not cripple any man, I would rather give him five yoke of oxen, than destroy his team, and you know it. [Some of the brethren in the stand, not believing their own eyes, that the whole congregation rose, it was tried over again, to satisfy them, when the congregation all rose again to a man.] Brother Hunter now knows what to do. Many of the brethren are killing their calves; don't do this; if you cannot raise them, it will be better to give them away to those who can. I bless you, and may the Lord bless you, in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
7. The 1852 Sermons of Brigham Young displayed in Hebrew Menorah Pattern.
Brigham Young, April 9, 1852
SELF-GOVERNMENT--MYSTERIES--RECREATION AND AMUSEMENT, NOT IN THEMSELVES SINFUL--TITHING--ADAM, OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD--TITHING
A sermon delivered by President Brigham Young, in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, April 9, 1852.
Entire Sermon Reformatted in Menorah Form (Link to: Tutorial on Menorah Pattern for those new to the Menorah Pattern)
(Note: Introductory Sermons with Imbedded Relevance) It is my intention to preach several discourses this evening, but how many I do not know. (First Sermon Reformatted in Menorah Form)
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I bless you, and may the Lord bless you, in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. |
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I wish now to say a few words to the brethren upon the subject of
tithing. It is well known to the majority of this Conference what
transpired, last Conference, upon the stand in the old Bowery. At
that Conference I had good cause to find fault with the Bishops,
and I took the liberty to brush them down a little. From that day
to this there has been more accomplished by our Bishops in the
short space of seven months, than was accomplished by them for
the space of years previously. This gives me great satisfaction.
The Bishops have done as well as men could do: their conduct in
fulfilling the duties of their calling has truly been
praiseworthy, and I feel to bless them, and pray the Lord to
bless them all the day long, for they have done first rate. When
we consider the ignorance of the world, their unbelief in God,
and realize that the vail of the covering is over the face of all
nations, and remember the ignorance we were once in ourselves,
having to commence like babes at the rudiments of learning,
knowing also how faltering men are in their faith, and then look
at what this people have accomplished, we are led to exclaim, "It
is marvellous in our eyes!" Were I to say, "Elders of Israel, you
that feel to put your all upon the altar, rise upon your feet,"
who would be left? [All present rose up simultaneously.] Where is
there another people upon the earth who would have done this? I
have no tithing, but all--all I have is the Lord's. You know the
word sacrifice: as brother Banks said to-day, it is a mere
burlesque--a nonsensical term. No man ever heard me say I had
made a sacrifice. I possess nothing but what my heavenly Father
has been pleased to give me, or, in other words, He has loaned it
to me while I remain here in this mortal flesh.
As I was meditating on the philosophy of the day, it occurred to
my mind how visible it must appear to all eyes that the Lord does
indeed work, that it is He who blesses this people; and yet it
seems as though they cannot see His hand. The Lord fills the
immensity of space. What saith the Psalmist? "Whither shall I go
from thy Spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I
ascent up into heaven, thou art there; if I make my bed in hell,
behold thou art there; if I take the wings of the morning, and
dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there shall thy
hand lead me." I was trying to think of the place where God is
not, but it is impossible, unless you can find empty space; and
there I believe He is not. If you can find such a place, it will
become useful for a hiding place to those who wish to hide
themselves from the presence of the Lord, in the great day of
accounts. I will close this sermon, as I intend to preach another
before I present the subject I more particularly wish to speak
upon.
Is it not marvellous, considering the weakness of man, to see the
willingness of this whole people to die if necessary for the
truth? How do you suppose it makes me feel? Though I may
sometimes chastise my brethren, and speak to them in the language
of reproof, there is not a father who feels more tenderly towards
his offspring, and loves them better than I love this people; and
my Father in Heaven loves them; my heart yearns over them with
all the emotions of tenderness, so that I could weep like a
child; but I am careful to keep my tears to myself. If you do
wrong, it grieves my heart, and it also grieves the heart of my
heavenly Father. I feel continually to urge my brethren to cease
from all evil, and learn to do well.
The children of men are made as independent in their sphere as
the Lord is in His, to prove themselves, pursue which path they
please, and choose the evil or the good. For those who love the
Lord, and do His will, all is right, and they shall be crowned,
but those who hate His ways shall be damned, for they choose to
be damned.
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The fulness of the heavens and the earth is the Lord's--the gold
and the silver, the wheat, the fine flour, and the cattle upon a
thousand hills; and when we fully understand His works, we shall
know that He is in all the earth, and fulfills His will among the
children of men, exalting and debasing them according to His
pleasure; for the systems, creeds, thrones, and kingdoms of the
world are all under His control. "Shall there be evil in a city,
and the Lord hath not done it"--or that He doth not control? The
Lord controls the whole; and in the end, you will find He has
regulated all things right, for all will be consummated to His
glory.
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(End Fourth Sermon Insert Reformatted in Menorah Form) Treasure up these things in your hearts. In the Bible, you have read the things I have told you to-night; but you have not known what you did read. I have told you no more than you are conversant with; but what do the people in Christendom, with the Bible in their hands, know about this subject? Comparatively nothing. |
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One thing has remained a mystery in this kingdom up to this day. |
I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now remember from this time forth, and forever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. I will repeat a little anecdote. I was in conversation with a certain learned professor upon this subject, when I replied, to this idea--"if the Son was begotten by the Holy Ghost, it would be very dangerous to baptize and confirm females, and give the Holy Ghost to them, lest he should beget children, to be palmed upon the Elders by the people, bringing the Elders into great difficulties." |
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It is in regard to the character of the well-beloved Son of God, upon which subject the Elders of Israel have conflicting views. |
Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man, "it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation. |
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Our God and Father in heaven, is a being of tabernacle, or, in other words, He has a body, with parts the same as you and I have; and is capable of showing forth His works to organized beings, as, for instance, in the world in which we live, it is the result of the knowledge and infinite wisdom that dwell in His organized body. His son Jesus Christ has become a personage of tabernacle, and has a body like his father. The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of the Lord, and issues forth from Himself, and may properly be called God's minister to execute His will in immensity; being called to govern by His influence and power; but He is not a person of tabernacle as we are, and as our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ are. |
It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. |
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The question has been, and is often, asked, who it was that begat the Son of the Virgin Mary. The infidel world have concluded that if what the Apostles wrote about his father and mother be true, and the present marriage discipline acknowledged by Christendom be correct, then Christians must believe that God is the father of an illegitimate son, in the person of Jesus Christ! The infidel fraternity teach that to their disciples. |
I have heard men preach upon the divinity of Christ, and exhaust all the wisdom they possessed. All Scripturalists, and approved theologians who were considered exemplary for piety and education, have undertaken to expound on this subject, in every obliged to conclude by exclaiming "great is the mystery of godliness," and tell nothing. |
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I will tell you how it is. |
I could tell you much more about this; but were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have gone. |
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Our Father in Heaven begat all the spirits that ever were, or ever will be, upon this earth; and they were born spirits in the eternal world. Then the Lord by His power and wisdom organized the mortal tabernacle of man. We were made first spiritual, and afterwards temporal. |
They came here, organized the raw material, and arranged in their order the herbs of the field, the trees, the apple, the peach, the plum, the pear, and every other fruit that is desirable and good for man; the seed was brought from another sphere, and planted in this earth. The thistle, and thorn, the brier, and the obnoxious weed did not appear until after the earth was cursed. When Adam and Eve had eaten of the forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its effects, and therefore their offspring were mortal. When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he took a tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in heaven, after the same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve; from the fruits of the earth, the first earthly tabernacles were originated by the Father, and so on in succession. |
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(Hebrew definition of the word Adam: Hebrew meaning of the word adam or אדם. Man, mankind, firstblood, father of blood, red lord, Principle Father << אדם. blood, red, redish, entrails, vitals << דם. first, father, god, prince, 1000, 1 << א. 4, door, world, sword << ד. 40, water, messiah, meditate<< ם. (Hebrew definition of the word Michael: Hebrew meaning of the word Michael or מיכאל . Who, as, God << מיכאל . Who << מי . as << כ . God << אל . 40, water, messiah, meditate<< מ. 10, arm, hand, work, deed << י . . 20, cupping hand, to open, to begin, as, like << כ . . first, father, god, prince, 1000, 1 << א. 30, teacher, staff, goad, control, to, for, toward << ל . .) |
Menorah Analysis of the two channels of thought embedded in the Adam God Theory.
( To benefit from the Adam God Theory as a Thinking System we should not have the two channels of thought in conflict. )
COMMON FATHER DOCTINE
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COMMON FATHER DOCTRINE
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John 6:44-46 No man can come to me, except
the Father
which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of
the Father
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the Father
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John 6:44-46 No man can come to me, except
the Father
which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of
the Father
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the Father
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Alma 12:33 33 But God did call on men, in the name of his Son, (this being the plan of redemption which was laid) saying: If ye will repent and harden not your hearts, then will I have mercy upon you, through mine Only Begotten Son; Alma 12:34 34 Therefore, whosoever repenteth, and hardeneth not his heart, he shall have claim on mercy through mine Only Begotten Son, unto a remission of his sins; and these shall enter into my rest. Alma 12:35 35 And whosoever will harden his heart and will do iniquity, behold, I swear in my wrath that he shall not enter into my rest. |
Alma 12:33 33 But God did call on men, in the name of his Son, (this being the plan of redemption which was laid) saying: If ye will repent and harden not your hearts, then will I have mercy upon you, through mine Only Begotten Son; Alma 12:34 34 Therefore, whosoever repenteth, and hardeneth not his heart, he shall have claim on mercy through mine Only Begotten Son, unto a remission of his sins; and these shall enter into my rest. Alma 12:35 35 And whosoever will harden his heart and will do iniquity, behold, I swear in my wrath that he shall not enter into my rest. |
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FACTIONAL
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Main Focus is on the FATHER
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Main Focus is on Jesus Christ
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MICHAEL SENIOR with resurrected body from another planet acted for and behalf of Michael Junior who is a spiirt yet to be born
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Michael Junior is a spirit, is born of woman here on Earth physically, from physical parents, becomes Adam by inheritance
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Light begins the Questions
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Truth ends the Questions
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Destiny of Man defines the Journey
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Journey of Man defines the Destiny
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. . . I will preach on the plurality of the Gods. I have selected this text for that express purpose. I wish to declare I have always and in all congregations when I have preached on the subject of the Deity. It has been the plurality of Gods. It has been preached by the Elders for fifteen years. . . . In the very beginning the Bible shows there is a plurality of Gods beyond the power of refutation. It is a great subject I am dwelling on. The word Eloheim ought to be in the plural all the way through--Gods. The heads of the Gods appointed one God for us; and when you take [that] view of the subject, it sets one free to see all the beauty, holiness and perfection of the Gods. All I want is to get the simple, naked truth, and the whole truth. . . . Taken from the last sermon of Joseph Smith Jr. 11 days before his death. Eloheim declared to mean Gods in plural |
Pres. Wilford Woodruff; General Conference address of April, 1895.
Part of the address Before I sit down I want to say a word to the Elders of Israel on another subject. I am called an old man. I guess I am. I was thinking just now, in speaking of the Apostles and Prophets that were with Joseph Smith when he made his last speech. I am the only man living that was with him at that time. The rest are to-day in the spirit world. How much longer I shall talk to this people I do not know; but I want to say this to all Israel: Cease troubling yourselves about who God is; who Adam is, who Christ is, who Jehovah is. For heaven's sake, let these things alone. Why trouble yourselves about these things? God has revealed Himself, and when the 121st section of the Doctrine and Covenants is fulfilled, whether there be one God or many gods they will be revealed to the children of men, as well as all thrones and dominions, principalities, and powers. Then why trouble yourselves about these things? God is God. Christ is Christ. The Holy Ghost is the Holy Ghost. That should be enough for you and me to know. If we want to know any more, wait till we get where God is in person. I say this because we are troubled every little while with inquiries from Elders anxious to know who God is, who Christ is, and who Adam is. I say to the Elders of Israel, stop this. Humble yourselves before the Lord; seek for light, for truth, and for a knowledge of the common things of the kingdom of God. The Lord is the same yesterday, to-day, and forever. He changes not. The Son of God is the same. He is the Savior of the world. He is our advocate with the Father. We have had letter after letter from Elders abroad wanting to know concerning these things. Adam is the first man. He was placed in the Garden of Eden, and is our great progenitor. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost, are the same yesterday, to-day and forever. That should be sufficient for us to know. I pray god to bless these Apostles, and to bless us all, and to give us wisdom and power to magnify our calling and to do our duty before the Lord, that we may be prepared to give an account of our stewardship while dwelling in the flesh. I pray that the lord will be merciful to us as a people and give those who bear the priesthood power to build up Zion and prepare the way for the coming of the Son of Man, which may God grant, for Christ's sake. Amen. Millennial Star 57:355-356; Thursday June 6 1895 issueEloheim sufficient for us to mean God In the early 1900s, some discussion arose among Church members about the roles of God the Father and Jesus Christ. The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles issued the following in 1916 to clarify the meaning of certain scriptures where Jesus Christ, or Jehovah, is designated as the Father. It is thought that a printing of this statement will be helpful to members as they study the Old Testament this year. ~Doctrinal Exposition 1916 Scriptures embodying the ordinary signification-literally that of Parent-are too numerous and specific to require citation. The purport of these scriptures is to the effect that God the Eternal Father, whom we designate by the exalted name-title “Elohim,” is the literal Parent of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and of the spirits of the human race. Elohim is the Father in every sense in which Jesus Christ is so designated, and distinctively He is the Father of spirits. Thus we read in the Epistle to the Hebrews: “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb. 12:9). In view of this fact we are taught by Jesus Christ to pray: “Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name” (Matt. 6:9). ~Doctrinal Exposition 1916 |
"Church under Brigham Young" . . .
How many earths are there? I observed this
morning that you may take the particles of matter composing this
earth, and if they could be enumerated they would only be a
beginning to the number of the creations of God; and they are
continually coming into existence, and undergoing changes and
passing through the same experience that we are passing through.
Sin is upon every earth that ever was created, and if it was not
so, I would like some philosophers to let us know how people can
be exalted to become sons of God, and enjoy a fulness of glory
with the Redeemer. Consequently every earth has its redeemer, and
every earth has its tempter; and every earth, and the people
thereof, in their turn and time, receive all that we receive, and
pass through all the ordeals that we are passing through.
Is this easy to understand? It is perfectly easy to me; . . .
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"Church since Joseph F. Smith" Moses 1:27-42 27 And it came to pass, as the voice was still speaking, Moses cast his eyes and beheld the earth, yea, even all of it; and there was not a particle of it which he did not behold, discerning it by the spirit of God. 28 And he beheld also the inhabitants thereof, and there was not a soul which he beheld not; and he discerned them by the Spirit of God; and their numbers were great, even numberless as the sand upon the sea shore. 29 And he beheld many lands; and each land was called earth, and there were inhabitants on the face thereof. 30 And it came to pass that Moses called upon God, saying: Tell me, I pray thee, why these things are so, and by what thou madest them? 31 And behold, the glory of the Lord was upon Moses, so that Moses stood in the presence of God, and talked with him face to face. And the Lord God said unto Moses: For mine own purpose have I made these things. Here is wisdom and it remaineth in me. 32 And by the word of my power, have I created them, which is mine Only Begotten Son, who is full of grace and truth. 33 And worlds without number have I created; and I also created them for mine own purpose; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten. 34 And the first man of all men have I called Adam, which is many. 35 But only an account of this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, give I unto you. For behold, there are many worlds that have passed away by the word of my power. And there are many that now stand, and innumerable are they unto man; but all things are numbered unto me, for they are mine and I know them. 36 And it came to pass that Moses spake unto the Lord, saying: Be merciful unto thy servant, O God, and tell me concerning this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, and also the heavens, and then thy servant will be content. 37 And the Lord God spake unto Moses, saying: The heavens, they are many, and they cannot be numbered unto man; but they are numbered unto me, for they are mine. 38 And as one earth shall pass away, and the heavens thereof even so shall another come; and there is no end to my works, neither to my words. 39 For behold, this is my work and my glory--to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man. 40 And now, Moses, my son, I will speak unto thee concerning this earth upon which thou standest; and thou shalt write the things which I shall speak. 41 And in a day when the children of men shall esteem my words as naught and take many of them from the book which thou shalt write, behold, I will raise up another like unto thee; and they shall be had again among the children of men--among as many as shall believe. 42 (These words were spoken unto Moses in the mount, the name of which shall not be known among the children of men. And now they are spoken unto you. Show them not unto any except them that believe. Even so. Amen.) |
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The apparent version
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The mental version
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The observational version
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"worlds without number" reckoning |
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Eternal Proxy Subrogation
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Divine Investiture of Authority
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Lilies of the Field
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Solomon in all his glory
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With Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith one ends with the scriptures as: |
I will tell you how it is. |
"Another matter. We hope that you who teach in the various organizations, whether on
the campuses or in our chapels, will always teach the orthodox truth. We warn you against
the dissemination of doctrines which are not according to the scriptures and which are
alleged to have been taught by some of the General Authorities of past generations.
Such, for instance, is the Adam-God theory. We denounce that theory and hope that everyone
will be cautioned against this and other kinds of false doctrine." (Please Note the word orthodox is NOT found in the scriptures anywhere! Why was not the word eternal or unchanging or simple etc. used instead of orthodox?) (Please Note the word alleged means in law: an allegation is a claim of a fact by a party in a pleading, charge, or defense. Until they can be proved, allegations remain merely assertions. Also it means to assert to be true without proving, to bring forward as ground or matter of fact in support of or in opposition to a claim or an accusation.) (Please Note doctrine is NOT the same as theory; it is here used interchangeably!) (Please Note "Adam-God Theory" is NOT the same as "Adam God Theory!") (Please Note "We denounce that theory" NOT "We denounce that doctrine." ) (Please Note "false doctrine" is NOT the same as "false theory" as doctrine is for teaching models and theory is for thinking paradigms!) |
(whole truth) how to teach what (whole truth) useful truth in full context |
(orthodox truth) what to teach and how (useful truth) what to teach and how |
I could tell you much more about this; but were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have gone. |
"Another matter. We hope that you who teach in the various organizations, whether on
the campuses or in our chapels, will always teach the orthodox truth. We warn you against
the dissemination of doctrines which are not according to the scriptures and which are
alleged to have been taught by some of the General Authorities of past generations.
Such, for instance, is the Adam-God theory. We denounce that theory and hope that everyone
will be cautioned against this and other kinds of false doctrine." "At the time this statement was made in the 1976 Priesthood conference, I was serving on a priesthood committee under the direction of Elder Mark E. Petersen. We were at that time working with a number of people who believed the Adam-God theory, and our committee wanted to know more precisely what President Kimball meant by his statement, so through Elder Petersen we made an appointment with him and asked him. In a private interview President Kimball made the following clarifications: He said that he did not say that President Brigham Young did not make the statements which are attributed to him, nor did he claim that they were falsely reported. Neither did he say that Brigham Young taught false doctrine. What he did say and what he meant is that the Adam-God theory is false, and the Adam-God theory is that interpretation which is placed on Brigham Young's words by present day apostates and fundamentalists - their understanding of what Brigham Young meant is false. Considering both President Kimball's original statement and his subsequent clarification,
what we need is an understanding of what Brigham Young meant by his statements which is in
accordance with scripture. This is reasonable even without President Kimball's statements,
because any of President Young's teachings which are not in harmony with scripture would
simply be wrong anyway." |
broaching the whole truth is unorthodoxy |
orthodoxy is truth |
enlightenment first |
order first |
ELOHEIM SEEN AS OUR GRANDFATHER(S) |
ELOHEIM APPEARS AS OUR FATHER |
(MICHAEL) Celestial Being with more than one wife is Father of Jesus |
ELOHEIM appears to be Father of Jesus |
REGENT JEHOVAH and REGENT MICHAEL were brothers, beings with celestial bodies |
Future Jehovah and Future Michael were brothers, spirit beings without bodies. They will inherit the name titles JEHOVAH and MICHAEL after their resurrection |
MICHAEL with one his wives were brought here from another Earth like planet to this Earth with bodies to become ADAM and EVE the first man. |
The body of Adam and the body of Eve were begotten here or "made" here on this Earth. |
ADAM became Eloheim to this Earth and His children, yet still MICHAEL to His ELOHEIM.
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Adam cast out of the Garden of Eden to the world we now live. |
Eloheim or MICHAEL is Father of Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:45 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. |
ELOHEIM appears to be the Father of Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:45 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. |
Jesus prepares the Earth for ELOHEIM to return. |
Jesus prepares the Earth for ELOHEIM to return. |
"Whole Truth"~Joseph Smith Jr. |
Orthodox Truth |
DIRECT MIND PERCEPTION |
DIRECT MENTAL PROCESS |
(Insight) of Light |
(Intuition) of Truth |
V Synthetical Thinking |
└ Analytical Thinking |
▼ When we return exhalted to our FATHER, We will be a Michael Jr., Children of a MICHAEL Sr., Grandchildren of the GRAND ELOHEIM. Looking down from Heaven we all are Michael. |
▲ When we return exhalted to our FATHER, We will be an Eloheim Jr., Children of an ELOHEIM Sr., Grandchildren of the GRAND ELOHEIM. Looking up from Earth THEY all are the ELOHEIM. |
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"Treasure up these things in your hearts. In the Bible, you have read the things I have told you to-night; but you have not known what you did read. I have told you no more than you are conversant with; but what do the people in Christendom, with the Bible in their hands, know about this subject? Comparatively nothing." ~Part of an address delivered by President Brigham Young, in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, April 9, 1852. "Permit me to say, that I am proud of my religion. It is the only thing I pride myself in, on the earth. I may heap up gold and silver like the mountains; I may gather around me property, goods, and chattels, but I could have no glory in that, compared with my religion; it is the fountain of light and intelligence; it swallows up the truth contained in all the philosophy of the world, both heathen and Christian; it circumscribes the wisdom of man; it circumscribes all the wisdom and power of the world; it reaches to that within the veil. Its bounds, its circumference, its end, its height, and depth, are beyond the comprehension of mortals, for it has none." ~Part of an address delivered by President Brigham Young, in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, July 11, 1852. Brigham Young could and did embrace either of both of these view(s)/point(s)/perspective(s)/concept(s) at his choice, which may explain the Bruce R. McConkie observation:
"Yes, President Young did teach that Adam was the father of our Spirits, and all the related things that the cultists ascribe to him. This, however, is not true. He expressed views that are out of harmony with the gospel. But, be it known, Brigham Young also taught accurately and correctly, the status and position of Adam in the eternal scheme of things. What I am saying is, that Brigham Young, contradicted Brigham Young, and the issue becomes one of which Brigham Young we will believe. The answer is we will believe the expressions that accord with the teachings in the standard works." "Yes, Brigham Young did say some things about God progressing in knowledge and understanding, but again, be it known, that Brigham Young taught, emphatically and plainly, that God knows all things and has all power meaning in the infinite, eternal and ultimate and absolute sense of the word. Again, the issue is, which Brigham Young shall we believe and the answer is: We will take the one whose statements accord with what God has revealed in the Standard Works."
[Hugh Nibley, BYU Studies, Vol. 11, No. 1, Autumn 1970, p.61-62] quote: "No man ever spoke his mind more frankly on all subjects; all his days he strove to communicate his inmost feelings, unburdening himself without the aid of notes or preparation in a vigorous and forthright prose that was the purest anti-rhetoric. It has been common practice to dismiss any saying of his of which one disapproves (and he makes no effort to please) by observing that he said so much on so many things that he was bound to contradict himself, and therefore need not be taken too seriously all the time. No view could be more ill-advised, for there never was a man more undeviatingly consistent and rational in thought and utterance. . . . Granted that Brigham would admonish the Saints to wear overcoats one day, so to speak, and the next day turn around and advise shirt-sleeves, the element of scandal and confusion vanishes if we only get the main idea, which is, that it is not the rule-book or the Administration but the weather that prescribes the proper dress for the day. All the other apparent contradictions in Brother Brigham's teachings likewise vanish when we grasp the main idea behind them." endquote "In the very beginning the Bible shows there is a plurality of Gods beyond the powers of refutation.
It is a great subject I am dwelling on.
The word Eloheim ought to be in the plural all the way through--Gods.
The heads of the Gods appointed one God for us; and when you take [that] view of the subject, it sets one free to see all the beauty, holiness and perfection of the Gods.
All I want is to get the simple, naked truth, and the whole truth."
1 Corinthians 8:5-6
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QUESTION:
5. Is the Adam God Theory Scriptural?
ANSWER:
Yes, the Adam God Theory is scriptural in the days of Brigham Young. However the Adam God Theory is not considered scriptural today, due to the vail(Paradigm Shift) on the thinking systems of today. The scriptures proving the Adam God Theory are hidden in plain sight today, due to the power of definition, or that definition has on personal thinking systems, or individual thinking systems, or upon the curiosity and learning ability of each of us!
If you choose to see the scriptures on the Adam God Theory then they are there. If you choose not to see the scriptures on the Adam God Theory then they are still there, however, you will not find them and/or you can not think of them.
Definition is the key element. If you define Eloheim as a single god you will see different meaning in the scripture. If you define Eloheim as Gods in plural then you will see another meaning in the scripture. This is the key Joseph Smith Jr. gave us by showing the Hebrew Eloheim is always plural.
Abraham 1:3 3 It was conferred upon me from the fathers; it came down from the fathers, from the beginning of time, yea, even from the beginning, or before the foundation of the earth, down to the present time, even the right of the firstborn, or the first man, who is Adam, or first father, through the fathers unto me.
The above scripture used to be as below:
Abraham 1:3 3 It was conferred upon me from the fathers; it came down from the fathers, from the beginning of time, yea, even from the beginning, or before the foundation of the earth, down to the present time, even the right of the firstborn, or the first man, who is Adam, our first father, through the fathers unto me.
Note the phrase (our first father) in the above scripture changed as of 1985 Ensign November
Here are some examples of why we need more than scriptures alone to understand God:
Additions in parenthesis () are examples used to clarify the meaning of the following scriptures!
Please Note:
John 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Ευ αρχη ηυ ο Λογος, και ο Λογος ηυ προς του Θεου, και Θεος ηυ ο Λογος.
Ουτος ηυ ευ αρχη προς του Θεου.
Literal Greek John 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and (God was the Word) . 2 This one(unity) was in the beginning with God.
The greatest impact of the literal translation is italicized.
What if the Father was regent or standing in for His Son till begotten?
Revelation 18:23 23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries(ψαρμακεια orignal Greek word) were all nations deceived.
ψαρμακεια pronounced pharmakeia meaning pharmaceutical science or drug craft changes everything from sorceries to the application of a science to deceive the world!
Look at the Covid vaccine controversy!
Please Note More:
Book of Mormon Mosiah 15:1-9 1 And now Abinadi said unto them: I would that ye should understand that God himself shall come down among the children of men, and (his Son) shall redeem his people.
2 And because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son-- 3 The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son-- 4 And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth.
5 And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, suffereth temptation, and yieldeth not to the temptation, but suffereth himself to be mocked, and scourged, and cast out, and disowned by his people.
6 And after all this, after working many mighty miracles among the children of men, he shall be led, yea, even as Isaiah said, as a sheep before the shearer is dumb, so he opened not his mouth.
7 Yea, even so he shall be led, crucified, and slain, the flesh becoming subject even unto death, the will of the Son being swallowed up in the will of the Father.
8 And thus God breaketh the bands of death, having gained the victory over death; giving the Son power to make intercession for the children of men-- 9 Having ascended into heaven, having the bowels of mercy; being filled with compassion towards the children of men; standing betwixt them and justice; having broken the bands of death, taken upon himself their iniquity and their transgressions, having redeemed them, and satisfied the demands of justice.
Please Note Further:
Luke 15:8-9 8 Either what woman having ten pieces of silver, if she lose one piece, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently till she find it?
9 And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the piece which I had lost.
Scripture Applied to Present Subject:
Luke 15:8-9 8 Either what Church having ten pieces of silver, if that Church lose the one Understanding of the Adam God Theory, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently till she find the Understanding of the Adam God Theory?
9 And when the Church hath found the Understanding of the Adam God Theory, The Church calleth Its friends and Its neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with the Church; for The Church has found the Understanding of the Adam God Theory which The Church had lost.
Please Note even Further that the Understanding of the Scriptures is what is to be Searched:
John 5:38-41 38 And ye have not his word (deeper understanding of the scriptures) abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
39 (Greek Translation is rendered Ye search; also, Joseph Smith translation is rendered Ye search) (Ye) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
If the scriptures are enough, then why did Joseph F. Smith issue the Doctrinal Exposition on the "Father and the Son" to clarify the scriptures?
See:
A Doctrinal Exposition From Improvement Era, Aug. 1916,
If a theory is supported both by scripture and authority, it becomes doctrine. Brigham supported his theory during his administration, therefore the Adam God Doctrine existed while he was alive. Today Brigham's doctrine has been unauthorized therefore it is relegated to opinion--which has less status than theory. The Adam God theory concerns itself with the Origin of God and the Destiny of Man. If you do not discuss and research the Origin of God, it is not the Adam God Theory.
Hebrew levels of scriptural reading:~adapted from Wikipedia (see {})
Pronounced Pardes meaning orchard....................(פרדס)
Pardes is a Hebrew acronym composed of the 4 following words
...........................(פשט)..........................
...........................(רמז)..........................
...........................(דרש)..........................
...........................(סוד)..........................
Peshat (פשט) "surface" ("straight") or the literal (direct) meaning. {Milk}
Remez (רמז) "hints" or the deep (allegoric: hidden or symbolic) meaning beyond just the literal sense. {Meat}
Derash (דרש) from Hebrew darash: "inquire" ("seek") - the comparative (midrashic) meaning, as given through similar occurrences. {Mysteries}
Sod (סוד) (pronounced with a long O as in 'lore') "secret" ("mystery") or the esoteric/mystical meaning, as given through inspiration or revelation. {Marvels}
Hebrew levels of scripture are then mosaic--depending upon the level of mental focus:
Book of Mormon 3 Nephi 23:1 1 And now, behold, I say unto you, that ye ought to search these things.
Yea, a commandment I give unto you that ye search these things diligently; for great are the words of Isaiah.
QUESTION:
-4. What is the Adam-God Theory?
ANSWER:
This is what was taught by Brigham Young as he said: "Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL✡, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken--HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later. They came here, organized the raw . . ."
QUESTION:
4. What is the Adam God Theory?
ANSWER:
QUESTION:
3. Why is the Adam God Theory not taught anywhere?
ANSWER:
Many reasons:
First Reason: that it is too advanced. Advanced or high/deep theory or doctrine divide the church and leadership into two camps of those who understand it and those who do not understand it. Jacob in the Book of Mormon advised that we should "prophesy to the understanding." Here is Jacob's advice, with some other's quotations:
Jacob 4:13 13 Behold, my brethren, he that prophesieth, let him prophesy to the understanding of men; for the Spirit speaketh the truth and lieth not.
2 Nephi 33:1 1 And now I, Nephi, cannot write all the things which were taught among my people; neither am I mighty in writing, like unto speaking; for when a man speaketh by the power of the Holy Ghost the power of the Holy Ghost carrieth it unto the hearts of the children of men.
2 Nephi 33:2 2 But behold, there are many that harden their hearts against the Holy Spirit, that it hath no place in them; wherefore, they cast many things away which are written and esteem them as things of naught.
2 Nephi 33:3A 3A But I, Nephi, have written what I have written, and I esteem it as of great worth, and especially unto my people.
Matthew 13:57-58 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.
1852 Sermon by Brigham Young Let a Bishop, a High Priest, a President of any Stake or Quorum, any who are Elders in Israel, or any individual Saint from the first to the last of them, fall into error, and it is at once made manifest; he cannot pursue that course any further, for he is where lie can learn his duties, and know how to walk straight in the paths of righteousness. Here is the place for you to teach great mysteries to your brethren, because here are those who can correct you. This fault the Elders of Israel do not fall into in this Tabernacle, although they may in private houses and neighborhoods. When a man is capable of correcting you, and of giving you light, and true doctrine, do not get up an altercation, but submit to be taught like little children, and strive with all your might to understand.
Understanding of men vary and hardness of heart vary, so which level of hardness and which level of understanding do you choose to address advanced theory or doctrine? Do you gather people according to their capacities to receive and thus divide the church according to their strengths and have more than one group? (Of course there is the hierarchical division between leadership and lay members, which is division enough, but we are concerned here with a deeper division of understanding of doctrine.) The scriptures says except you are one you are not mine. So now, we are in between a rock and a hard place as to selecting the level of understanding or strength to receive new or advanced doctrine. So who selects the level? Would it be a level for ease of Church management? Would it be a level to have the greatest church population? The greatest church population would mean greater donations through offerings and tithing. But Joseph said "I teach them correct principles and they govern themselves."Now we come to a concept that is often called "dead level mormonism" which means that those who become too advance are brought down to the selected level and those new to the church and weaker saints will be brought up to that same selected level. However this may be, Brigham Young ignored the concept of "dead level mormonism" and taught big things to all. To "saints and sinners" alike; so much for dead level! This means personal pace of learning is ignored and the dead level pace is set externally, with the exception of personal study which has minimal controls and hopefully no controls. But generally you can learn all you want on your own. This in effect defeats the dead levels in actuality anyway and people are saved as persons and not as a group, as rejected in the pre-existence counsels.
The question is do you give a man a fish for one meal or do you teach a man to fish for a lifetime of meals?
Second Reason: it is a thinking system and thinking can not be instructed as other principles of the gospel. 'As a man thinketh so is he' . 'For My thoughts are not your (their in Hebrew) thoughts'. If children are brought up with the idea or theory they will see that it is exquisitely simple. This thinking system will be part of their mental tools for the rest of their lives. Self-esteem is enhanced with the theory and this is a destroyer of social classes and differentiations. Thinking is seen to be restricted to those in power positions by the world where lordship is prevalent.
Third Reason: it is used to identify those who would practice polygyny. It seems to be associated with this form of marriage before and after the "Manifesto(s)." Persons who were prepared for plural marriage were given additional instructions. Adam God Theory may have been one of these additional instructions. Since the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints no longer practices Patriarchal Marriage, this tradition is manifest and the church can comply with the laws of the land by removing law breakers. Therefore they, who are tenaciously holding to this view of creation, can be easily removed from the Church, if they are practicing a forbidden form of marriage. Since it explains our creation better, this method of determining offenders has serious side effect/affect, which tends to selectively dumb down the general membership overall. The correct understanding of the Adam God Theory explains why the early mormons practiced "plural marriage." Plural marriage, in most all instances, purged false Christian beliefs from the leadership of the Church consisting of new converts. Notable exceptions mentioned in the April 1852 sermon. The return to Christian "Doctrine" on the Birth of Christ and The Father of Christ prompted the 1852 Sermon in conference. The Michael/Adam pronouncement of Brigham was to thwart this return. This suggest that a future return to false Christian beliefs would be prevented by a cancelation and nullifcation of the "Manifesto". The Torah or the law of Moses permits polygyny nullifying this taboo. Or truth is truth let the light shine in every dark place. Orthodoxy creates taboo.
Fourth Reason: it is strangely not Christian and it puts up walls to proselytes--difficult to talk through. It is just too strange unless explained in the "Big Picture," or with a thinking system to objectively handle it. The "Big Picture" is a Temple Concept. The "Big Picture" is portrayed by Lorenzo Snow's cuplet "As man now is, God once was, and as God now is, man may become."
Fifth Reason: it weakens dogma (or counter-balances it). When Orson Pratt was teaching a dogma concerning the birth of Christ, Brigham Young introduced this view point in conference to strongly counteract the teachings of some of the Elders who were teaching a dogma to undermine original teachings. True dogma facilitates church management. False dogma undermines church teachings and management. Orson Pratt and others were trying to return to false Christian dogma.
Sixth Reason Is a quote from Adam God Theory © 1986:Perhaps herein lies the clue as to the violent reactions to this proposition as it engenders autonomy and total culpability and personal responsibility. If one were to socially engineer a people, it would be easiest to mold and shape those who believe in evolution or direct creation from material rather than those who believe in being the issue of woman, because they would be bound by the concept of their origin and resign themselves always to be the product of some other's design than their own family. However, if you tell a people they are free and have an origin and mind to prove it, they will act accordingly. It is because of the facility gained to control people efficiently that the social engineer devise artificial traditions by disturbing their roots and myths or redefining the truth of their origin and destiny. It is, therefore, absolutely crucial to freedom to know the truth of our origin that we may be free to decide our future without the machinations of the social engineers.
To know the true origin of our past is to give meaning to our present life. To foreknow the true destiny of our future is to give purpose to our present life. It is impossible to deceive a person who knows for himself who he came from, who he is, and who he shall become.
BENEFACTIONS OF THE THEORY
It is an ill wind that blows no good. Children become completely absolved of all taint that is ascribed by Christianity to children as being born in sin. In these last days, abortion is running rampant and children are being blamed for the errors of the adults who brought them forth. If children were the issue of a God rather than an Adam who fell and sinned and was cast out to forever suffer, could inappropriate guilt be ingrained into children because of superstition and ignorance of what really is the origin of man? Could child abuse and the disparagement of children as a burden and unwanted encumbrance be tolerated if we accepted the idea that they are direct descendants of a God rather than a fallen rebel? If "Adam" was our God, then forever are our children ennobled to be the children of a god and can only be condemned and accountable for their own acts, at an age where their maturity makes them personally responsible for their own acts and not for a fallen parent. The Adam God theory elevates children to purity, and relegate adults to a more responsible and guilty position, which probably is why it is so violently rejected.
A great deal of study is needed to further explore the reasons this idea has met with such varied and positive emotional mind sets. However, there are not enough persons who now know enough about this version or view of the gospel to make satisfactory comparison studies. The strict taboo and suspicions of apostasy that are engendered by the adherents or detractors also further exacerbate the problem. It is too bad that it cannot be open to study so that our past can be more readily understood--and our future.
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Seventh Reason: a misunderstanding of the first commandment of the Ten Commandments:
( א לא יהיה לך אלהים אחרים על פני )
which says literally "You shall not have to you gods of other peoples before my face." It does not say you shall not have gods after my face or behind me. Joseph Smith said that he would not worship a god who does not have a father. The first commandment thus being misunderstood, many will not consider that they are part of the family of heaven. But we are the children of Heavenly Father who is the Father of Jesus.
Adam is a God the Father of us and a Son of GOD THE FATHER of all.
Moses 6:68 68 Behold, thou art one in me, a son of God; and thus may all become my sons.
Eighth Reason: it is peculiar and not mainstream, lacking traditional background history.
Ninth Reason - Orthodoxy requires teaching the basics first. -
Tenth Reason - The knowledge is lost - to some.
QUESTION:
2. Why research the Adam God Theory by self study?
ANSWER:
QUESTION:
1. Why study both LDS general versions of the Adam and God ideas of Brigham Young and Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith?
ANSWER:
For the development of both sides of the brain to produce Holistic thinking or DMP
(Displayed in Menorah Form Below:)
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BIG PICTURE |
SMALL PICTURE |
RIGHT SIDE OF THE BRAIN |
LEFT SIDE OF THE BRAIN |
COMMON FATHER |
COMMON FATHER |
Worlds without number reckoning |
This Earth only reckoning |
The "Brigham Young" version of the explanation of Adam's role |
The "Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith" version of the explanation of Adam's role |
First: based upon the theology of Joseph Smith Jr. and Brigham Young; |
First: based upon the Scriptures; |
"Paul says there are Gods many and Lords many,
I want to set forth in a plain and simple manner; but to us there is but one God--that is pertaining to us; and he is in all and through all.
But if Joseph Smith says there are Gods many and Lords many, they cry, "Away with him! Crucify him!"
Mankind verily say that the Scriptures are with them. Search the Scriptures, for they testify of things that these apostates would gravely pronounce blasphemy.
Paul, if Joseph Smith is a blasphemer, you are.
I say there are Gods many and Lords many, but us only one, and we are to be in subjection to that one, and no man can limit the bounds or the eternal existence of eternal time.
Hath he beheld the eternal world, and is he authorized to say that, "there is only one God?"
He makes himself a fool if he thinks or says so, and there is an end of his career or progress in knowledge.
He cannot obtain all knowledge, for he has sealed up the gate to it.
Some say I do not interpret the Scripture the same as they do.
They say it means the heathen's gods.
Paul says there are Gods many and Lords many; and that makes a plurality of Gods, in spite of the whims of all men. Without a revelation, I am not going to give them the knowledge of the God of heaven.
You know and I testify that Paul had no allusion to the heathen gods.
I have it from God, and get over it if you can. I have a witness of the Holy Ghost, and a testimony that Paul had no allusion to the heathen gods in the text."
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REPEATING AGAIN:
"God is God. Christ is Christ. The Holy Ghost is the Holy Ghost. That should be enough for you and me to know. If we want to know any more, wait till we get where God is in person."~Wilford Woodruff 1895
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The Brigham Young version is like a movie
with many frames, or many still shots presented in a flowing sequence.
Adam is the common denominator of all the flowing frames.
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(Insight) of Light |
The Joseph F. Smith version is like a
still snap shot of just one frame by which all the dynamics of eternity
must be seen in one suspended frame. There is no sequence presented.
└ (Intuition) of Truth |
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What is shared by both versions is the the concept of "common Father." ~reference Volume 6 Journal of Discourses page 348 and Volume 10 page
Volume 6 Journal of Discourses Brigham Young proclaims Common Father the Father of Jesus
Volume 10 Journal of Discourses Brigham Young proclaims Common Father the Father of Jesus
What differs concerning the common father is the identity of the common Father; though, in both versions there is the concept of "common Father."
Proxy work is the means by which these two views can be married together and/or viewed together at once for full mental development. (DMP) * see below
The tri-perspective third component is that we are Adam or a Michael ourselves, or ones to "become such," The Corpus Callosum of thinking, if we learn to THINK as in the following mystery: REPEATING AGAIN Brigham Young: "The greatest mystery a man ever learned, is to know how to control the human mind, and bring every faculty and power of the same in subjection to Jesus Christ; this is the greatest mystery we have to learn while in these tabernacles of clay."
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REPEATING AGAIN:
The Adam God Theory is disruptive to education that has been obtained
through classic study. There is much less logical disturbance in learning it,
if the learner is self-educated or self-taught. Creative thinking methods
are required to understand the dual-perspective/tri-perspective thinking
system embedded in the theory or doctrine as it were. Brigham Young and
Joseph Smith Jr. were self-taught and self-educated to a greater degree.
The principles learned through their type of self-teaching will be required
to understand their point of view in this subject. Right Brain thinking is
required along with Left Brain thinking. Understanding comes with the
linking Corpus Callosum thinking--metaphorically speaking. Current
modern education specializes in Left Brain thinking, typical of Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith.
Education gained through formal method aside from self-teaching, setup
the confounding of the mind with the Adam God Proposition, because classic
formal education is externally conditioned learning.
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*The Meaning of DMP is taken from FUTURLOGICS © 2014 page 23.
THE
MIND AS PERCEIVER The
mind is the receiver of perception, since it accepts and registers
the stimuli sent by all the other senses. We can use common
expressions to illustrate this: i.g. that "beauty is in the eye
of the beholder," "music is in the heart," and "seeing
is believing." The mind adds quality to perceptions of the
sense organs. With out these additions to sensory contacts, we would
be at the basic stimulus reaction of the lowest forms of life.
Action would be merely reflexive. Many
of us need a place to meditate. Remember the last time the radio or
the television was on in the next room, while you were trying to read
or concentrate? In such a din we say, "I can't even hear my own
thoughts." Thinkers, writers, and students seek a place where
they are able to tune into their own thoughts. It
is common practice to avoid stimulus and perception, mostly for
beneficial reasons, contributing to study habits. But what else do
we block out, or shield from consciousness? Do we put out of mind
other things as easily, such as the perceptions of the mind itself?
Can the mind receive on its own, directly from the environment? Does
a direct mental perception occur, bypassing the regular channels?
Perhaps we ignore more than we realize. Can we be conscious of more
than our own thoughts? Does the mind learn by direct means?
DUAL
DEFINITION OF DMP At
this point in our discussion a conceptual idea fundamental to
FUTURLOGICS a System of Prospective Thinking , must be introduced. Direct Mental Process
and Direct Mind Perception, (DMP), both
refer to a mental operation necessary to self-teaching and learning
the future. The mind as a "perceptual organ" itself, is an
idea that opens to view the world beyond the five senses. The future
is intuitively known and the concept of Direct Mental
Process and/or Direct Mind Perception
takes on special meaning, offering answers (perhaps to easily and
temptingly) we seek. However, DMP is basic to this study.
(Or to researching the unknown in general. The future can be a one
word metaphor for all that is to be researched or yet learned.) And
DMP is a very useful tool. DMP
is a duplex acronym of both (D)irect (M)ind
(P)erception and (D)irect (M)ental (P)rocess.
The definition of DMP must be left purposely ambiguous to
draw in simultaneously both dimensional features of mental
consciousness. The rational and intuitive nature of thought are both
necessary to prospective thinking. Because DMP contact with
the future is left loosely defined, personal input into the subject
is unavoidable. Rather than being a problem, such bias is an aid (if
we keep an open mind). As we shall see, as the theory develops, DMP
can only be a matter of self-discovery and intuition, after we
develop insights into
FUTURLOGICS . DMP
may be creativity, meditation, intuitive insight or a process yet
undefined. At this point we cannot make a strict definition. The
definition of DMP is a matter of continual self discovery. If
we say what it IS, we also say what it IS NOT, and the mind is not
left free to make its own discoveries and experiences, necessary to
FUTURLOGICS
and to self-teaching. It is offered as a temporary
concession that, since we now know that a future exists, we must have
come to this knowledge by a purely mental process or perception.
What that is, is DMP! If you know there is a future, then it
came through DMP. Before
DMP is apparent by self-discovery, we experience hunches,
insights, precognition and similar phenomena which reflect(s) one
form of bias; conversely, training and schooling in logic and
reasoning and philosophy-related experience, might ascribe to DMP
the reasoning processes necessary to handle abstract thought. Either
view or input is constructive to an understanding of
FUTURLOGICS and
DMP. If an open mind is maintained, these inputs will be
unavoidable with an open definition, but this should not affect the
study of FUTURLOGICS. Diversity of this nature should enhance the
learning effect, when principles of
FUTURLOGICS are discussed with
others, who look both at the concept of the future and the future
itself with interest. No
matter what DMP means to the reader, the general concept is a
tool in studying the future. The minimum limits however for a
working definition, is that the future or the temporal environment
can only be mentally considered or perceived. DMP offers a
quick reference to such demands upon higher thought processes
(metacognition.) DMP is also the intuitive process of hunches
and insights that bode of the future. Finally, it is a shortened
description of all the means of learning exclusive of the five
senses. Seeing
is believing, but what we believe directs our eyes toward what we
see. Without DMP we would not learn even with the five
senses. As
we study the six modes/models of
FUTURLOGICS, we shall see how nicely
the three modes that relate to the time continuum equate to DIRECT
MENTAL PROCESS namely past, present, future; and how
appropriate the other three modes relate to DIRECT MIND
PERCEPTION because of the principles of intelligence they
represent namely imagination, assumption/waiting, creativity. This
form of parallel thought streaming in DMP become(s)
foundation(s) to the holistic mind. DMP is plural and
singular at once.
FUTURLOGICS
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- A System of Prospective Thinking |
Let the white snake/fish in the TAO represent right brain thinking in DMP or Insight |
Let the black snake/fish in the TAO represent left brain thinking in DMP or Intuition |
black eye dominates --- white eye dominates
|
black snake/fish dominates --- white snake/fish dominates
|
Perception of Light |
Process of Truth |
✡ DMP |
2 Nephi 2:11 11 For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things.
If not so, my first-born in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad.
Wherefore, all things must needs be a compound in one;
QUESTION:
-9. In the book Adam God Theory © 1986 © 2016 there are reference(s) to the 'Calculus of the Gospel', how did this idea come about?
ANSWER:
Actually the 'reasoning of Abraham' was mentioned by Joseph Smith and this gave me the idea that infinite subjects could be dealt with in this way in much the same manner as mathematic does with limits. When the worlds without numbers are considered as creations multiply and replenish, some higher order of thought is needed to capacitate the mind to think in such terms. Perhaps my interest in math gave me this metaphor to discuss the principles found in the Adam God Theory. Obviously the concept of the origin of God or even the origin of man require this assistance. To understand the commandments of God require us to understand where we came from and where we are going according to the things we do here and now.
Also two other thought principles are useful and needed in dealing with the infinite or apparently contradictory ideas . One is the "De Morgans Theorem" which connects two different logics together by a translating formula. The second is the difference between a stupor and cognitive dissonance. Many mistake the dissonance experience with stupor which is where one senses something is not true by insight or intuition. Adam God theory requires two perspectives and two logics to handle-- without these it can cause mental/spiritual dissonance.
QUESTION:
-1. What happens to those who choose to study only one LDS versions of the Adam and God ideas of Brigham Young and Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith of the Adam God Theory?
ANSWER:
(Besides, Right Brain dominates the Left Brain or Left Brain dominates the Right Brain, full/holistic brain activity is shunted. TAO is unbalanced or "Right Brain Blindness" or "Left Brain Blindness")
First answer is historically explained:
History of the Church will or must be suppressed and avoided causing a temporal breach to our understanding.
Prophets of the Church will or must be regarded for a time instead of for all times.
An orthodox history will or could be set forth.
History denial is supported.
Second answer is scripturally explained:
Life eternal requires or it is prerequisite to know both the Father the only true God AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent!
John 6:44-46 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
John 17:3 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Jesus is the Son of God. God is the Father. To emphasize Jesus at the expense of Father actually diminishes Jesus as the Son of God. To emphasize the Father at the expense of Jesus removes all mercy for the rest of the Father's children. Balance is the watch word.
John 5:20-24 20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Balance is the watch word!
John 16:12-16 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
One needs the Spirit of Truth to get Balance!
2 Nephi 31:18 18 And then are ye in this strait and narrow path which leads to eternal life; yea, ye have entered in by the gate; ye have done according to the commandments of the Father and the Son; and ye have received the Holy Ghost, which witnesses of the Father and the Son, unto the fulfilling of the promise which he hath made, that if ye entered in by the way ye should receive.
Third answer is mentally explained:
A thinking system requires or it is prerequisite to use both the right and left sides of the brain/consciousness to mentally handle the paradigm shift, toggling between the two view/perspectives.
To be determined to use only one perspective defeats the total mind development that embracing both versions will provide. Simply seeing it from only one side/perspective, will/may arrest full mental development. Also there will be personal internal logical oscillations privately and social conflict with others who see it from the other view. This is called Cross Mode Masking and can cause one to be blind to other perspectives. There can be excessive compensation cause by this blindness. Empathy is also impaired if not eliminated. Judgment is also diminished such that incomplete data/information befuddles the mind. Mental views/operations are generally skewed.*
What are the other mental operations effected/affected?
*Answer © 2010: The six fundamental mental operations central to developing DMP, (the dual defined acronym) or Direct Mind Perception/Direct Mental Process are the balance between:
>>> CROSS MODE MASKING,
>>> COMPENSATION ,
>>> HEURISTICS,
>>> JUDGMENT,
>>> CREATIVITY,
>>> KNOWLEDGE
These components are needed to use the whole mind, and are defined next:
CROSS MODE MASKING is the affect from channel or sense blaring, that dominate other inputs, so as to cause an attenuation, or blocking, or mode/cycle style of thought, to the other inputs. The opposite of cross mode masking is compensation. Example, sight dominates the inputs the other senses send. Or sometimes a sound is so loud we loose the ability to see clearly.
COMPENSATION is the heightened thought and sensory awareness, and sensitivity due to a blockage of one channel, or sense, or thought. Example, the blind using all his other remaining senses, to make up for the loss of his sight, will illustrate this effect.
HEURISTICS is the happy discoveries made without logical or patterned thought. It is the improvements made to the mind, because the mind finds new ways to do things, in a “shorthand” fashion. It says, “if it works for me, I’ll use it”, even if it cannot be explained, or if it comes out of the blue, or if it has a self contained logic of its own-because it works!
JUDGMENT is ability to evaluate incomplete data, partial information imperfect knowledge.
CREATIVITY is synthetic thought that combines, builds, adds, to get a new idea or new approach.
KNOWLEDGE is our awakening to existence.
Simply: mind development is shunted and deep learning is prevented and advanced thinking stopped!
Fourth answer is a common sense explanation:
Seeing/thinking only in terms of specifics loses the meaning of those specifics.
Seeing/thinking only in terms of generalities loses the scope of those generalities.
Seeing/thinking in terms of generalities and specifics finds scope and meaning or understanding.
Fifth answer is doctrinally explained:
Denying the truth in the opposing view(s) will increase the disputations and/or contentions so that common ground is ignored. Blindness to the other sides valid offerings of evidence leads to the mutual excommunication of both sides. "World view" or the perspective of those whom you seek to convert must be included in the invitation, to feel the importance or relevance of their view.
To be a peacemaker one must understand all points of contention and all thinking in dispute, lest violence be the solution.
3 Nephi 11:28-41 28 And according as I have commanded you thus shall ye baptize.
And there shall be no disputations among you, as there have hitherto been; neither shall there be disputations among you concerning the points of my doctrine, as there have hitherto been.
29 For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.
30 Behold, this is not my doctrine, to stir up the hearts of men with anger, one against another; but this is my doctrine, that such things should be done away.
31 Behold, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will declare unto you my doctrine.
32 And this is my doctrine, and it is the doctrine which the Father hath given unto me; and I bear record of the Father, and the Father beareth record of me, and the Holy Ghost beareth record of the Father and me; and I bear record that the Father commandeth all men, everywhere, to repent and believe in me.
33 And whoso believeth in me, and is baptized, the same shall be saved; and they are they who shall inherit the kingdom of God.
34 And whoso believeth not in me, and is not baptized, shall be damned.
35 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my doctrine, and I bear record of it from the Father; and whoso believeth in me believeth in the Father also; and unto him will the Father bear record of me, for he will visit him with fire and with the Holy Ghost.
36 And thus will the Father bear record of me, and the Holy Ghost will bear record unto him of the Father and me; for the Father, and I, and the Holy Ghost are one.
37 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or ye can in nowise receive these things.
38 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and be baptized in my name, and become as a little child, or ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God.
39 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my doctrine, and whoso buildeth upon this buildeth upon my rock, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against them.
40 And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil, and is not built upon my rock; but he buildeth upon a sandy foundation, and the gates of hell stand open to receive such when the floods come and the winds beat upon them.
41 Therefore, go forth unto this people, and declare the words which I have spoken, unto the ends of the earth.
Sixth answer is socially explained:
Suppressing questions by exercising unrighteous dominion and authority, where opinions are the result of righteous inquiry fuels destructive controversy. Orthodoxy does well to protect the weak and the young, but should stand back for the strong and mature.
Matthew 7:7-8 7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Knocking on the door of the future can open it. Learning how to think is knocking. Thinking requires a system; even if it is only a check list!
QUESTION:
-11. What Thinking System is recommended to start?
ANSWER:
To start memorize The Sermon on the Mount , it will become the ground zero of all thinking systems.
Next consider the book The Pyramids of God , Thinking Paradigms of Light and Truth by james n. hall and Julie O. Hall
The following is taken from Pyramids of God © 2007 as a summary:
AFTER-WORD:
THE FUTURE OF THE PYRAMIDS
This treatise is an application of FUTURLOGICS a system of prospective thinking. FUTURLOGICS or something like FUTURLOGICS a System of Prospective Thinking , will be used, in the near future, to teach children light and truth and how to think. Perhaps it will be with the Pyramids of God.
The authors believe that the SERMON ON THE MOUNT is the foundation of all thinking systems. It is the foundation of FUTURLOGICS . It is the thinking system, if understood. As the personification of that sermon is followed, who is Jesus of Nazareth, the spirit of man, the mind of man, the heart of man, the strength of man, will surely awaken to great intelligence. Indeed, we will realize our heritage as the children of god.
Since the first printing of Pyramids of God in 2007 the authors' book:
SEARCH ISAIAH
הפש ישעיהו
PYRAMID ZERO
The Witness and Poetry of Isaiah
Copyright © 2010
by
james n. hall with Julie O. Hall
has been published to continue the Pyramids of God by its application upon the Book of Isaiah. The Book of Isaiah is Pyramid Zero. It was found and explained that Isaiah used paradigms and poetic menorahs to express his prophecies concerning the future of Israel and Judah in particular. This 333 page book reveals the power of this technique by illuminating the writings of the premier prophet Isaiah.
Further information will be found at: https://futurlogics.com/hidden/isaiah.html
PYRAMIDS
OF GOD
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QUESTION:
5. Which Adam God Core Ideas are recommended for self-study?
ANSWER:
Adam was Michael who was chosen in the pre-existent counsels and was a spirit personage. A PERSON with a body was needed to do the work for and in behalf of Michael to start the Human Race; this PERSON is MICHAEL a SENIOR MICHAEL WHO does proxy work for Junior Michael Who, will at some point later inherit this mantle. This substitution is referred to as "Eternal Proxy Subrogation." This vicarious work by regents is the basis of the thesis in The Adam God Theory by the author james n. hall © 1986 STP latest printing 2014. FUTURLOGICS (thinking system) is used here to research the ideas that explain THE ADAM GOD THEORY .
Definition of a REGENT?
If you do work for the dead in a Latter Day Saint Temple you are a regent for the dead. If you are baptized for the dead, you are not baptized again for yourself but you act as a regent for and in behalf of the person who is dead. If a king turns his kingdom over to a prince who is a minor and too young to rule, a regent or regents are set to manage the kingdom until the young prince grows in majority and experience to be the king indeed. Dictionary Definition from google -- regent noun noun: regent; plural noun: regents 1. a person appointed to administer a country because the monarch is a minor or is absent or incapacitated. 2. North American a member of the governing body of a university or other academic institution. adjective adjective: regent 1. acting as regent for a monarch. "the queen regent of Portugal"Scriptural Examples: {commentary}:{} Alma 12:33-34 33 But God{The Father as Regent} did call on men, in the name of his Son, (this being the plan of redemption which was laid) saying: If ye will repent and harden not your hearts, then will I have mercy upon you, through mine Only Begotten Son; 34 Therefore, whosoever repenteth, and hardeneth not his heart, he shall have claim on mercy through mine Only Begotten Son, unto a remission of his sins; and these shall enter into my rest.
Psalms 110:1 1 A Psalm of David. The LORD {The Father as Regent} said unto my Lord{The Son}, Sit thou at my right hand {be the Prince on the throne}, until I {The Regent} make thine enemies thy footstool.
Ether 3:6-21 6 And it came to pass that when the brother of Jared had said these words, behold, the Lord{Regent for spirit of Jesus} stretched forth his hand and touched the stones one by one with his finger.
And the veil was taken from off the eyes of the brother of Jared, and he saw the finger of the Lord{Regent for spirit of Jesus}; and it was as the finger of a man, like unto flesh and blood; and the brother of Jared fell down before the Lord{Regent for spirit of Jesus}, for he was struck with fear.
7 And the Lord{Regent for spirit of Jesus} saw that the brother of Jared had fallen to the earth; and the Lord{Regent for spirit of Jesus} said unto him: Arise, why hast thou fallen?
8 And he saith unto the Lord{Regent for spirit of Jesus}: I saw the finger of the Lord{Regent for spirit of Jesus}, and I feared lest he should smite me; for I knew not that the Lord{Regent for spirit of Jesus} had flesh and blood.
9 And the Lord{Regent for spirit of Jesus} said unto him: Because of thy faith thou hast seen that I shall take upon me flesh and blood; and never has man come before me with such exceeding faith as thou hast; for were it not so ye could not have seen my finger.
Sawest thou more than this?
10 And he answered: Nay; Lord, show thyself{Regent for spirit of Jesus} unto me.
11 And the Lord{Regent for spirit of Jesus} said unto him: Believest thou the words which I shall speak?
12 And he answered: Yea, Lord, I know that thou{Regent for spirit of Jesus} speakest the truth, for thou art a God{Regent for spirit of Jesus} of truth, and canst not lie.
13 And when he had said these words, behold, the Lord{Regent for spirit of Jesus} showed himself unto him, and said: Because thou knowest these things ye are redeemed from the fall; therefore ye are brought back into my presence; therefore I show myself{Regent for spirit of Jesus} unto you.
14 Behold, I{Father as Regent} am he{Son} who was prepared from the foundation of the world to redeem my people.
Behold, I{Regent} am Jesus Christ{The Son}.
I{Regent} am the Father and the Son.
In me{Son} shall all mankind have life, and that eternally, even they who shall believe on my name; and they shall become my sons and my daughters.
15 And never have I{Father as Regent} showed myself unto man whom I{Father as Regent} have created, for never has man believed in me as thou hast.
Seest thou that ye are created after mine own image{Father as Regent}?
Yea, even all men were created in the beginning after mine own image{Father as Regent}.
16 Behold, this body{Father as Regent}, which ye now behold, is the body of my spirit; and man have I{Father as Regent} created after the body of my spirit; and even as I{Regent} appear unto thee to be in the spirit will I{The Son} appear unto my people in the flesh.
17 And now, as I, Moroni, said I could not make a full account of these things which are written{full account may disclose Regency Proxy Work} therefore it sufficeth me to say that Jesus showed himself unto this man in the spirit, even after the manner and in the likeness of the same body even as he{The Son} showed himself unto the Nephites.
18 And he ministered unto him even as he ministered unto the Nephites; and all this, that this man might know that he was God{Father as Regent}, because of the many great works which the Lord had showed unto him.
19 And because of the knowledge of this man he could not be kept from beholding within the veil; and he saw the finger of {Regent of}Jesus, which, when he saw, he fell with fear; for he knew that it was the finger of the Lord{Father as Regent}; and he had faith no longer, for he knew, nothing doubting.
20 Wherefore, having this perfect knowledge of God{Father as Regent for His Son}, he could not be kept from within the veil; therefore he saw Jesus; and he did minister unto him.
21 And it came to pass that the Lord said unto the brother of Jared: Behold, thou shalt not suffer these things which ye have seen and heard to go forth unto the world, until the time cometh that I shall glorify my name in the flesh; wherefore, ye shall treasure up the things which ye have seen and heard, and show it to no man.
{Mormon 9:33 33 And if our plates had been sufficiently large we should have written in Hebrew; but the Hebrew hath been altered by us also; and if we could have written in Hebrew, behold, ye would have had no imperfection in our record.}{In Hebrew the distinction for the names of God, GOD, Lord, LORD are definitive!}
For a more complete scriptural treatment of this thesis you can:
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QUESTION:
-5. How many other approaches to self-study of Adam God Theory are there?
ANSWER:
There may be at least nine general approaches to explain ADAMS role in the creation of man itemized next:
(Some of these versions are not conducive to clear thinking)
- First Theory Version
Adam was created from this earth's dust and after having been formed was given the breath of life. He then fell and became the father of this worlds mortality. Eve was created from "Adam's rib" in a literal sense as if she were a female clone of Adam.
- Second Theory Version
Adam was the third member of a Presidency of Heaven and was given life after a long sleep. His origin varies according to the belief in the role that His Father had in his coming to life and receiving the breath of life. He fell through a divine plan for the salvation of mankind in this earth trial. (Essentially this is a magic view as Adam appears as if by magic as if it is just "accepted" God placed Adam in his position with no importance assign to the knowledge of his origin.) (this version added in 2003)
- Third Theory Version
Adam is a Son of God in a literal sense. Adam's Father is defined as a SENIOR ADAM and our Earth's Adam is defined as a Junior Adam or our Adam. This makes the introduction of mankind to the Earth a double birth/begotten operation or a two phase event. It was Adam Junior who fell and died. It defines SENIOR ADAM as Eloheim. Therefore SENIOR ADAM begets the body of Junior Adam who fell and died and Jesus. The question not answered is how did SENIOR ADAM beget a body instead of a spirit as SENIOR ADAM is the Father of Adam Junior's spirit also. So ADAM SENIOR is the immediate Father of Adam Junior's body and spirit. Or Adam Senior is the Common Father of Adam Junior! Also ADAM SENIOR is the Common Father of Jesus Christ!! See these links --> ~Elden Watson Clarified by Editorial in RED ~Clark Goble (LDS)
This version causes these problems:
If the "first man is called Adam," then how can there be two first man?
This two ADAM theory makes us the grandchildren of GOD rather than the children of God.
So far it has never been presented, the possible idea that ADAM SENIOR is also a MICHAEL SENIOR. If there is an ADAM SENIOR and an Adam Junior, then there is a MICHAEL SENIOR and a Michael Junior. Also Adam Junior becomes an Eloheim Junior! All become doubling of every thing.
- Fourth Theory Version
Adam is and was the God who was the Savior from a previous earth and received life in Himself such that He could die and live at will. This version puts Adam as a Son of an Adam who is a Son of an Adam ad infinitum. The fall was merely a process of creation and was not a transgression of law but a kind of miracle we only could understand if we were likewise to be given life in oneself.
- Fifth Theory Version
This theory is a result of rejecting the original views and propositions of Brigham Young and the effort to replace it with an 'idea' that builds a 'Cosmic' Christ. In this view the pre-mortal Christ is the creator of man's body. The Father is somewhat eclipsed such as the moon eclipses the sun. Since the Atonement of Christ is infinite in its defined effect; it is to save people of the other earths in the cosmos. In this version the reason Christ chose this Earth to come to do His atonement is that it is the wickedest of all creations. By overcoming this Earth the atonement will be more effective to the Universe of Earths less wicked. This 'idea' uses the principle that Christ descended below all things to be above all things. (added 2003)
Link to: Wickedest Earth Idea Text- Sixth Theory Version
This version proposes that no one knows what Brigham meant. The downside of this version is that it makes Brigham a poor teacher. The upside of this version is that we can suspend discussion over the matter until we can get a mind that is the equal of Brigham to explain what he meant. It is treated as an anomaly. www.mormoninterpreter.com ~Dennis B. Horne
- Seventh Theory Version
This version proposes that Brigham is/was wrong. And, if those who propose Brigham is/was wrong are wrong then, this sets up logical oscillations and a vortex of authority wars. Bruce R. McConkie proposed that there were two Brigham Young(s). One who was orthodox and one who was unorthodox. "and the issue becomes one of which Brigham Young we will believe?"
- Eighth Theory Version
This version has its origin in Science and Social Engineering, to remove religious theory to make a compliant people. Social Engineering is facilitated by theory of origins. In Brigham Young's library are some of Darwin's works he studied. This version is added here as an example of non religious or an areligious "world view" to exemplify the effect/affect of self-definition, coming from a belief or theory on behavior and thought.
- Ninth Theory Version
This version is a method to emphasize the role of Jesus, such that the mention of the Father is eclipsed in the grandeur of Christ. It is accomplished by barely mentioning the Father except where necessary and required through scriptural mandates. Thus the Adam God Theory is set in the background to Christ; however the scriptures below say, be careful:
2 Nephi 25:26 26 And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.
Jacob 4:5 5 Behold, they believed in Christ and worshiped the Father in his name, and also we worship the Father in his name.
3 Nephi 27:13-18 13 Behold I have given unto you my gospel, and this is the gospel which I have given unto you--that I came into the world to do the will of my Father, because my Father sent me. 14 And my Father sent me that I might be lifted up upon the cross; and after that I had been lifted up upon the cross, that I might draw all men unto me, that as I have been lifted up by men even so should men be lifted up by the Father, to stand before me, to be judged of their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil-- 15 And for this cause have I been lifted up; therefore, according to the power of the Father I will draw all men unto me, that they may be judged according to their works. 16 And it shall come to pass, that whoso repenteth and is baptized in my name shall be filled; and if he endureth to the end, behold, him will I hold guiltless before my Father at that day when I shall stand to judge the world. 17 And he that endureth not unto the end, the same is he that is also hewn down and cast into the fire, from whence they can no more return, because of the justice of the Father. 18 And this is the word which he hath given unto the children of men.
John 17:3 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
None the less, Jesus said my Father is greater than I and I and my Father are one and I came to do the will of the Father. Further more, one must know the identity, character, perfections, attributes, purposes, plans, works of the Father to understand Jesus. Therefore the method of this version will instead diminish Jesus rather than cause Jesus to loom greater than the Father.
QUESTION:
-2. Why is it difficult to find authoritative research on the Adam God Idea?
ANSWER:
Authoritative research today requires education and education leans toward evolution as an explanation of man's origin rather than an Adam with Eve.
Trying to find what Brigham actually taught is a task that seems to be avoided by most members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints. There is a fear that he actually taught from the position of the First Presidency, a doctrine that is not sustainable in today's views. Or, there is a denial, that persist to maintain a doctrinal simplicity that is easier to teach on a global scale. However this may be, there is great profundity in the advanced teachings of Brigham Young; for, during the time he was introducing this view of creation April 1852 (Adam God Theory existed before Joseph Smith's death June 1844), the theory of evolution by Charles Darwin was being promoted and generated acceptance in the academic circles (beginning January 1844 to November 1859-the date of publication of "Origin of Species").
Perhaps the Adam God Theory is the best answer yet to the secular humanist view of man, as a product of the evolutionary soup of the primal beginnings of earth, as seen by today's Godless social movements that will promote a moral degradation. This degrades man as a product of nature and not a descendant of an advanced being with an eternal plan.
Also, the Adam Ideas of Brigham Young were part of the beginning LDS Temple Endowment. The Temple teachings are to be restricted to approved members with temple recommends. Even though, Brigham spoke of them in General Conference with the 1852 sermon.
QUESTION:
0. Can God create new additional knowledge to the total knowledge bank??
ANSWER:
YES.
God can meta-learn and meta-think and meta-comprehend to add new intelligence to the bank of infinite knowledge.
God eternally progresses with new thoughts. These will or could become plans.
Isaiah 55:8-9 King James Version
8 For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 55:8-9 Actual Hebrew meaning
8 For my thoughts [are] not their (their in Hebrew i.e. the wicked) thoughts, neither [are] their (their in Hebrew i.e. the wicked) ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than their (their in Hebrew i.e. the wicked) ways, and my thoughts than their (their in Hebrew i.e. the wicked) thoughts.
Repentance is the process of learning to think like God. Great rewards are promised to those who can think like God
"Thy mind, O man! if thou wilt lead a soul unto salvation, must stretch as high as the utmost heavens, and search into and contemplate the darkest abyss, and the broad expanse of eternity-thou must commune with God." - Joseph Smith Jr.
QUESTION:
-10. What is meant by the phrase "Calculus of the Gospel?"
ANSWER:
The "Adam God Theory" is based upon mathematical principles found in higher math, where infinite series and digression limits are determined or integrated. Persons who have studied the Calculus should find a familiar tone and tenor to the Adam God Theory propositions. If those who live on other planets were to visit, it would be found that the universal language of the universe would be numbers and mathematical principles. Like the elements that make up the constituents of all things, they are eternal and consistent from all levels of existence, and there is also the principle of the de Morgan theorem, theory of limits, differentiation, integration, series, logic etc. All truth is independent in the sphere in which it is created, math is in the sphere of the Adam God Theory. A math major is not necessary to understand the "Green Book" (Adam God Theory © 1986) but it helps. There is a leap of logic that takes place when one advances from the Arithmetic to the Algebra and from the Algebra to the Calculus. Likewise there is the leap of faith and logic going from Allegory of Creation to the Adam God Theory. It is a gestalt of understanding.
QUESTION:
6. Brigham said Adam was brought here from another planet. Then what are the fossil records of creatures or animals that resemble man?
ANSWER:
What was Lucifer doing on Earth when no place was found for him in Heaven?
Since Lucifer was denied a body, could he have modified existing life forms to simulate a body to inhabit?
If his followers could inhabit swine, then why not build bodies to get corporal?
Are these hominids fossils evidence of Lucifer's influence upon the biology of this Earth to genetically engineer a body he was denied because of the curse?
The similar Hominids to man are not descendants of Adam, therefore they are not literal descendants of Adam! The descendants of Adam did not evolve from a lower life form, but are the begotten descendants of a higher life entity from another planet sphere.
QUESTION:
-8B. How do you account for the story of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden in view of the Adam God Theory?
ANSWER:
The Adam and Eve Story is a metaphor or a similitude of the pre-existent state of man. Adam and Eve represent the Creative Origin of man. Cain represents Lucifer and later becomes Satan as a vagabond and fugitive on the run on earth. Abel represents the mortal Messiah and the atonement. Seth the replacement of Abel represents the resurrection of Jesus. The battle over the offerings to be accepted by Cain and Abel, is a type of the War in Heaven over the Plan of Salvation. Since Abel's offering, a keeper of flocks, was accepted by faith in the Messiah. Where Cain is offering the products of the earth or vegetables, we see the two plans that were offered to the Father in the pre-existence. Lucifer being cast out and becoming Satan is the type of Cain being cursed. This type is through out the book of Genesis. But as with all the types and parables of the scriptures, there is parallel meanings in these teachings, and even multi-layered meanings. The Adam God Theory only highlights one of these layers of meaning, in a metaphoric way. Adam is our God is the metaphor, to help us understand where we came from, and where Adam came from!
QUESTION:
-8. Does the Adam God Theory limit God, making God just a man?
ANSWER:
All Religions including Christianity limit God, making Him incapable of creating a duplicate of Himself. Most religions say that God can create anything except Satan and another God as powerful as Himself. In this view, if God can make a duplicate of Himself as He is self-existent, or just is, and not a created being in the first place; so, if God creates one like Himself then the second God is not like Him as He is created by the first God and therefor not self-existing! Also God cannot create evil as this would mean then, evil comes from God and therefor God is evil and if only good can come from God therefor evil is good. Yet, if He created Lucifer who created himself to be Satan by God's gift of free will, but if God created free will, so God indirectly created Satan from Lucifer. Satan is the father of lies. But it is said "God cannot lie."
God must have limits, such as He cannot lie. God cannot break a promise. God cannot deceive man. Yet God cannot disclose the whole truth to man, except when man has proven himself worthy of the greater truth according to His purposes, therefor God has set the "flaming sword to guard the way of the tree of life" to prevent man from achieving immortality in his sins, thus making man the transhumanist's dream come true. God's greatest power is that He can limit Himself. God limits Himself so He can delegate His attributes to his children. God limits Himself so man can have free will and a moral agency.
The Constitution of the United States of America is a limiting document, designed to prevent a totalitarian government. Some say God is All Powerful therefore we must not be free because He is involved in us and all we do. But God limits Himself that we may be both tested and free. Some question why does God let all these things happen to us? Could it be that He is letting us solve our own problems, for a test and for our free agency? Perhaps, let us consider that the greatest miracle of all is, that God can limit what influence He has over all things. The Adam God Theory will engender in man a greater sense of these freedoms, that God has extended for our own development(s). The war in heaven was over the eternal battle of 'security vs freedom.' Lucifer offered assured salvation, where Jesus provided a continuation of the Fathers limited government and self-development; and the opportunity to overcome the risks of life by taking upon us his name. The God who is always All powerful is responsible for complete destiny and choices of man. The Adam God Theory is like the Constitution of the United States, we must defend ourselves by keeping the commandments of God. This is the Salvation that requires our own initiative. Satan in the last days will offer security if we surrender our freedom-this is the Chains of Hell. Jesus will return again when man has gone as far as he can go on his own. Then He will assist us to the next level, to prepare the Earth for the return of the FATHER. The grace of God should be seen as the opportunity given us, to work out our own salvation with the Spirit of God as our personal Regent. Jesus also is our Regent to help us.
What is the potential of man? What if man ascends to his full potential?
Matthew 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.Job 7:17-18
17 What is man, that thou shouldest magnify him?and that thou shouldest set thine heart upon him?
18 And that thou shouldest visit him every morning, and try him every moment?
Psalms 8:3-9
3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him?
and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.
9 O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth!
QUESTION:
-5. Does the Mormon concept that 'God was once a man' make God too feeble to save mankind or have any sway in the universe?
ANSWER:
A God who has always been (a) God, puts man in his place as a creature only, destined and predestined by His fashioner. This is like a big government view where each(creature) is a subject to a species apart(God), such as: the noble of Europe who considered themselves to be above(divine right of kings), those(common man), who(common man) they(nobles) ruled and taxed. If by being children of a God(who was once a man), then we are all noble by birthright. Simply, God as a man once, does away with the so called divine right of kings. But then who should rule, so that there may be order? Jesus of course is the only one who has this right, by merit of His great work in Judea. One of the lowliest angels in heaven could with ease defeat the whole armies of the Earth. God is so much more than all the angels put together and lacks nothing to save. And scriptures have declared that He is mighty to save. The war for men's minds will polarize to two camps. One camp will have a cosmic Savior, who guarantees security at the expense of freedom. The other camp will have the meek and lowly Savior, who entreats by restraint and governs by teaching correct principles, specifying that freedom means: risks follow as the price of freedom. Indeed the political arenas of the Earth will also so polarize. God having been a man once, in nowise means He can not save to the uttermost degree. Those who think so lack understanding of their own origin.
All who think that the Mormon God is lessened because of His origin, does not understand the hope this knowledge gives the faithful. Many would build up God beyond His real station, to assuage their own fears of living in this world. By exaggerating the nature and origin of God, there is the bombastic display before the fearful, that the All Powerful can take care of any fear, even with no effort on their own part. Truly God is All Powerful in every respect, even in every respect to the lessons that we must learn, for having been sent to this Earth to experience mortality. This hope is animated within each of us, due to the great Model and Example of The Father and His Son. Simply, if Our Father Who was once a man as we are now, succeeded to such great heights; then we, if we attain the same light and knowledge could achieve the same. Jesus is the Example of How this is done. Contrary to even some mormons of modern orientation, Jesus is just like all of us, and worked out his own mission on Earth, as we should. He started from humble beginnings, then grew in grace and truth to inherit the mantle of the Great Jehovah. Truly angels helped him on the way to His final ascension with His God and Our God and His Father and Our Father. Why would angels be needed to help an one already God, as some purports? Those who understand the Law of Eternal Progression, should see the place of Eternal Proxy Subrogation, to provide Regents to act in our behalf, until we can go on our own and do likewise. From whence then does these "exaggerations" come? A God who was once a man and we are His progeny, ennobles each man!
QUESTION:
-6. Was Eve a clone of Adam?
ANSWER:
Since this web page is to answer questions concerning the Adam God Theory, the answer will be given from that perspective first. No. The Woman who became Eve was born on another planet and was brought here to become EVE. She is one of Michaels wives. Before Michael became Adam, She was married and sealed to Michael in some pre-Earth world. Therefore She is His eternal companion.
The Brick Theory is that Adam was created from inanimate matter or dust. In this case God elected to make Eve secondarily from flesh and bone(rib) or perhaps from Adam's DNA. This suggest that at least one of our ancestors was a clone. Of course God has the knowledge and technology to clone humans. But the pattern was set for each of us to procreate. Without the Adam God Theory some persons are created, 'cloned', and the rest are procreated. In the Adam God Theory all persons are procreated even Adam and Eve. This difference between creation of people and procreation of people is the hinge, between the Adam God Theory and all the rest of the rationalizations concerning the origin of Man, for example Panspermia Theory.
Panspermia Theory suggests life exists beyond our world and came here by some transport. Adam God Theory is an order of magnitude beyond Panspermia Theory. Our ancestry came from another earthlike planet.
QUESTION:
-3. If Jesus is the second Adam, and since the first Adam was married, was the second/last Adam married or was Jesus married?
1 Corinthians 15:45-47
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
ANSWER:
This question will be answered rabbinically with questions.
John 5:19
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
If the Father has a son, does Jesus have a son?
Genesis 1:27-28
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Did Jesus keep this commandment?
Would marriage destroy the perfection of Jesus?
Are there women in Heaven?
Are there men in Heaven?
Why not married men and women in Heaven?
Why not Jesus married in Heaven?
Do any of the scriptures say definitively that Jesus was not married?
Do Chistians trust that: "God is still a man!" whose name is Jesus?
If God can make the second Adam who is Jesus, then why cannot God make the first Adam MICHAEL?
Did not Joseph Smith Jr. declared that "God was once a man?"
QUESTION:
-12. How many Adams are there?
ANSWER:
They are numberless or without number or infinite.
Moses 1:33-35
33 And worlds without number have I created; and I also created them for mine own purpose; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten.34 And the first man of all men have I called Adam, which is many.
35 But only an account of this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, give I unto you.
For behold, there are many worlds that have passed away by the word of my power.
And there are many that now stand, and innumerable are they unto man; but all things are numbered unto me, for they are mine and I know them.
There are numberless Eves also for it is not good for man to be alone.
. . . Each Adam and Eve will be honored by their children per commandment five of the Ten Commandments.
Doctrine and Covenants 121:26-32
26 God shall give unto you knowledge by his holy Spirit, yea, by the unspeakable gift of the Holy Ghost, that has not been revealed since the world was until now;27 Which our forefathers have awaited with anxious expectation to be revealed in the last times, which their minds were pointed to by the angels, as held in reserve for the fulness of their glory;
28 A time to come in the which nothing shall be withheld, whether there be one God or many gods, they shall be manifest.
29 All thrones and dominions, principalities and powers, shall be revealed and set forth upon all who have endured valiantly for the gospel of Jesus Christ.
30 And also, if there be bounds set to the heavens or to the seas, or to the dry land, or to the sun, moon, or stars--
31 All the times of their revolutions; all the appointed days, months, and years, and all the days of their days, months, and years, and all their glories, laws, and set times, shall be revealed in the days of the dispensation of the fulness of times--
32 According to that which was ordained in the midst of the Council of the Eternal God of all other gods before this world was, that should be reserved unto the finishing and the end thereof, when every man shall enter into his eternal presence and into his immortal rest.
QUESTION:
-14. In the many Adams, who do we worship?
ANSWER:
We should worship the same GOD that all these Adams worship.
We should worship the same GOD that Jesus worships.
We should worship the same GOD our Adam and Eve worship.
We should honor Adam and Eve the same as the fifth commandment declares.
Exodus 20:12 12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Mosiah 13:20 20 Honor thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
( The land in the above scriptures is [adamah] which in Hebrew means Earth).
Moses 1:34 34 And the first man of all men have I called Adam, which is many.
To quote Brigham Young, "He helped to make and organize this world" ... meaning He [is/was/shall be] in the service of One Higher.
QUESTION:
-13. What/How shall the "SOONERS" live with the "LATERS" per Brigham Young prediction that everyone will know it sooner or later?
ANSWER:
Notice the () which offer suggestions in the scriptures next:
Matthew 13:24-30 (With Brigham Young's point of view:)
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed(SOONERS) in his field:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares(LATERS) among the wheat(SOONERS), and went his way.
26 But when the blade(SOONERS) was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares(LATERS) also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed(SOONERS) in thy field?
from whence then hath it tares(LATERS)?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this.
The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them(LATERS) up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares(LATERS), ye root up also the wheat(SOONERS) with them.
30 Let both(SOONERS and LATERS) grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares(LATERS), and bind them(LATERS) in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat(SOONERS) into my barn.
OR
Matthew 13:24-30 (With the point of view of those who dispute Brigham Young's teaching)
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed(LATERS) in his field:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares(SOONERS) among the wheat(LATERS), and went his way.
26 But when the blade(LATERS) was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares(SOONERS) also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed(LATERS) in thy field?
from whence then hath it tares(SOONERS)?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this.
The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them(SOONERS) up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares(SOONERS), ye root up also the wheat(LATERS) with them.
30 Let both(LATERS and SOONERS) grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares(SOONERS), and bind them(SOONERS) in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat(LATERS) into my barn.
COMMON ELEMENT IN BOTH VERSIONS OF THE PARABLE:
30 Let both(LATERS and SOONERS) grow together until the harvest:
SOLUTION BEFORE THE HARVEST IS THE FOLLOWING FORMULA:
From the perspective of "the Council of the Eternal God of all other gods before this world was," Our Father is a Michael(Right Brain View), and at the same moment, From the perspective of this Earth only, Our Father is a member of the Eloheim, or is one of the Eloheim(Left Brain View.) Therefore Our God is both an Eloheim and a Michael at once(Holistic View.) Just as we can be a Father and a Son at the same moment.
QUESTION:
-15. What is FUTURLOGICS © 1983 ? How does it help crack the code to the ADAM GOD thing?
ANSWER:
SUMMARY EXCERPTS FROM ADAM GOD THEORY © 1986
quotes:
page 62
The Adam God theory is neither true nor false. It also can neither be proved nor disproved. It is only a theory and really therefore just a thinking system. Can the function behind thought be called true or untrue as we can think of both the true and the false with the same mind? It therefore is a mental view and/or a functional perspective. What is important is not the theory itself but what is seen through this bipolar form of thinking.
page 68
The apparent version or "this earth only" reckoning necessitates the Divine Investiture of Authority to explain to a degree the oneness in the principle of Christ when referencing the Son as Jehovah. (See Articles of Faith, by James E. Talmage, Appendix 2, page 471 from "The Father and Son: A Doctrinal Exposition" by the First Presidency and the Twelve.)
The seen version or the "worlds without number" view likewise necessitates the Eternal Proxy Subrogation to explain to a degree the oneness in the principle of Christ when referencing the Father as Jehovah.
Endquotes.
These two apparently opposing view points are like DMP in the FUTURLOGICS . The Divine Investiture of Authority is like Direct Mental Process of FUTURLOGICS in characteristics. The Eternal Proxy Subrogation is like Direct Mind Perception of FUTURLOGICS in characteristics. DMP is both at once. This bipolar view(s) is the result of solving the Adam God Theory controversy. It was very intriguing to me that a religion should have such a biocular view point as in the actual, original teachings of Brigham Young, who was tutored by a prophet.
Using a separate thinking system helps the study of the scriptures or any "QUESTION:" concerning it. FUTURLOGICS is a way of studying it out in your mind. This has been suggested in the Doctrine and Covenants. I have taken this advice seriously. This passage is quoted below:
Doctrine and Covenants 9:7-10
7 Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you, when you took no thought save it was to ask me.
8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right.
9 But if it be not right you shall have no such feelings, but you shall have a stupor of thought that shall cause you to forget the thing which is wrong; therefore, you cannot write that which is sacred save it be given you from me.
10 Now, if you had known this you could have translated; nevertheless, it is not expedient that you should translate now.
Notice: the burning vs the stupor both come from deity. There appears to be a possibility that the better the study method the better the communication to be received.
Notice: The study method referred as "if you had known this" is like a low order Thinking System or the beginning of a Thinking System or a MOS which is a Mental Operating System or Pre-knowledge.
Notice: Thinking is best with a method or design or plan or a system. Meta-thinking is where you use your thinking to improve your thinking, it is meta-cognition applied to your thinking skill, or your thinking habits, or your mental self-improvement.
Go to the Table of ContentsNEXT IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE KING FOLLET DISCOURSE 1844 APRIL:
"In the first place, I wish to go back to the beginning-to the morn of creation. There is the starting point for us to look to, in order to understand and be fully acquainted with the mind, purposes and decrees of the Great Eloheim, who sits in yonder heavens as he did at the creation of the world. It is necessary for us to have an understanding of God himself in the beginning. If we start right, it is easy to go right all the time; but if we start wrong we may go wrong, and it will be a hard matter to get right.
There are but a very few beings in the world who understand rightly the character of God. The great majority of mankind do not comprehend anything, either that which is past, or that which is to come, as it respects their relationship to God. They do not know, neither do they understand the nature of that relationship; and consequently they know but little above the brute beast, or more than to eat, drink and sleep. This is all man knows about God and His existence, unless it is given by the inspiration of the Almighty.
If a man learns nothing more than to eat, drink and sleep, and does not comprehend any of the designs of God, the beast comprehends the same things. It eats, drinks, sleeps, and knows nothing more about God; yet it knows as much as we, unless we are able to comprehend by the inspiration of Almighty God. If men do not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend themselves. I want to go back to the beginning, and so lift your minds into more lofty spheres and a more exalted understanding than what the human mind generally aspires to." ~Joseph Smith Jr. 1844 King Follet Discourse.
Key thinking points outlined:
- morn of creation is the starting point for us to look to
- It is necessary for us to have an understanding of God himself in the beginning.
- If we start right, it is easy to go right all the time;
- but if we start wrong we may go wrong, and it will be a hard matter to get right.
- comprehend that which is past, or that which is to come, as it respects their relationship to God.
- unless it is given by the inspiration of the Almighty.
- unless we are able to comprehend by the inspiration of Almighty God.
- comprenend oneself (small picture)
- so lift your minds into more lofty spheres (big picture)
- a more exalted understanding ( Holistic Views )
- aspire
- (See the "Big Picture" and see the "Small Picture.")
. . .
"As man now is, God once was:" "As God now is, man may be." ~Lorenzo Snow
-- POSTSCRIPTS --
"God Himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!
That is the great secret.
If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make Himself visible,-
I say, if you were to see Him today, you would see Him like a man in form-
like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man;
for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with Him, as one man talks and communes with another. . . ."
~ Joseph Smith Jr.
"Thy mind, O man!
if thou wilt lead a soul unto salvation,
must stretch as high as the utmost heavens,
and the broad expanse of eternity-
thou must commune with God."
~ Joseph Smith Jr.
So shall it be with my father:
he shall be called a prince over his posterity,
holding the keys of the patriarchal priesthood over the kingdom of God on earth,
even the Church of the Latter Day Saints,
and he shall sit in the general assembly of patriarchs,
even in council with the Ancient of Days when he shall sit and all the patriarchs with him
and shall enjoy his right and authority under the direction of the Ancient of Days.
~ Joseph Smith Jr.
ADAM GOD THEORY
Advanced Level Viewed as a Thinking System
Man is the final unit of measure and Michael is the fractile of the Universe.
Joseph Smith Jr. has read the real BOOK OF MORMON.
The BOOK OF MORMON will survive all changes in the Church.
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My next sermon will be to both Saint and sinner. One thing has
remained a mystery in this kingdom up to this day. It is in
regard to the character of the well-beloved Son of God, upon
which subject the Elders of Israel have conflicting views. Our
God and Father in heaven, is a being of tabernacle, or, in other
words, He has a body, with parts the same as you and I have; and
is capable of showing forth His works to organized beings, as,
for instance, in the world in which we live, it is the result of
the knowledge and infinite wisdom that dwell in His organized
body. His son Jesus Christ has become a personage of tabernacle,
and has a body like his father. The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of
the Lord, and issues forth from Himself, and may properly be
called God's minister to execute His will in immensity; being
called to govern by His influence and power; but He is not a
person of tabernacle as we are, and as our Father in Heaven and
Jesus Christ are. The question has been, and is often, asked, who
it was that begat the Son of the Virgin Mary. The infidel world
have concluded that if what the Apostles wrote about his father
and mother be true, and the present marriage discipline
acknowledged by Christendom be correct, then Christians must
believe that God is the father of an illegitimate son, in the
person of Jesus Christ! The infidel fraternity teach that to
their disciples. I will tell you how it is. Our Father in Heaven
begat all the spirits that ever were, or ever will be, upon this
earth; and they were born spirits in the eternal world. Then the
Lord by His power and wisdom organized the mortal tabernacle of
man. We were made first spiritual, and afterwards temporal.
(Central point of the theory begins here!)
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Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint
and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he
came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his
wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is
MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men
have written and spoken--HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the
only God with whom WE have to do. Every man upon the earth,
professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will
know it sooner or later. They came here, organized the raw
material, and arranged in their order the herbs of the field, the
trees, the apple, the peach, the plum, the pear, and every other
fruit that is desirable and good for man; the seed was brought
from another sphere, and planted in this earth. The thistle, and
thorn, the brier, and the obnoxious weed did not appear until
after the earth was cursed. When Adam and Eve had eaten of the
forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its effects, and
therefore their offspring were mortal. When the Virgin Mary
conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own
likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the
Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he took a
tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in heaven, after the
same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the
sons and daughters of Adam and Eve; from the fruits of the earth,
the first earthly tabernacles were originated by the Father, and
so on in succession. I could tell you much more about this; but
were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to
it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of
mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have
gone. I have heard men preach upon the divinity of Christ, and
exhaust all the wisdom they possessed. All Scripturalists, and
approved theologians who were considered exemplary for piety and
education, have undertaken to expound on this subject, in every
obliged to conclude by exclaiming "great is the mystery of
godliness," and tell nothing.
It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct
characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three
forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing
element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and
Holy Ghost.
Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined
to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind
up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man,
"it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our
elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character
that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven.
Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make
light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will
prove their salvation or damnation.
I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a
great deal more remains to be told. Now remember from this time
forth, and forever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the
Holy Ghost. I will repeat a little anecdote. I was in
conversation with a certain learned professor upon this subject,
when I replied, to this idea--"if the Son was begotten by the
Holy Ghost, it would be very dangerous to baptize and confirm
females, and give the Holy Ghost to them, lest he should beget
children, to be palmed upon the Elders by the people, bringing
the Elders into great difficulties."
Treasure up these things in your hearts. In the Bible, you have
read the things I have told you to-night; but you have not known
what you did read. I have told you no more than you are
conversant with; but what do the people in Christendom, with the
Bible in their hands, know about this subject? Comparatively
nothing.
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Another matter.
We hope that you who teach in the various organizations, whether on the campuses or in our chapels, will always teach the orthodox truth.
We warn you against the dissemination of doctrines which are not according to the scriptures and which are alleged to have been taught by some of the General Authorities of past generations.
Such, for instance, is the Adam-God theory.
We denounce that theory and hope that everyone will be cautioned against this and other kinds of false doctrine. October 1976 President Spencer W. Kimbal
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is basis to ADAM GOD THINKING Paradigm Shift Vertical or Paradigm Shift Horizontal or Paradigm Shift Deeper Once Doctrine, Now Theory, Still Advanced Thinking To understand Brigham Young's theology, one must learn to think like Brigham Young. To understand Brigham Young's theology, one must remember Joseph Smith Jr. mentored Brigham Young. by james n. hall self teaching autodidact author of
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